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  • Mormon Red Death
    BYU Delenda Est
    • Nov 2008
    • 8077

    #2866
    Fair enough... Its still far flung. Please note that the post referenced was responding to this quote from you:


    I am speculating a bit, but if you don't think other schools aren't watching BYU's independence experiment with interest you're wrong. And if you don't think BYU has changed the landscape of college football before, you're wrong again.
    For the record I don't think Texas going indy is inevitable. I still think its far flung. Could it happen? Sure. Are the odds hi? Yes.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #2867
      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
      Fair enough... Its still far flung. I was responding to this:
      It's okay if you want to be wrong twice.
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
      -Turtle
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      • HuskyFreeNorthwest
        Time to camp
        • Nov 2008
        • 26082

        #2868
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        It's okay if you want to be wrong twice.
        If you are so sure Texas is going Indy why do you want BYU in the B12? The idea of playing Baylor, Kansas, KSU, Missouri and Iowa State every year that exciting?
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #2869
          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          If you are so sure Texas is going Indy why do you want BYU in the B12? The idea of playing Baylor, Kansas, KSU, Missouri and Iowa State every year that exciting?
          I don't if they go indy and the other sports go elsewhere like the Pac 10 like MRD hopes. If they stay in the Big 12 though I'd much rather BYU's other sports be there than the WCC.
          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
          -Turtle
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          • Mormon Red Death
            BYU Delenda Est
            • Nov 2008
            • 8077

            #2870
            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
            I don't if they go indy and the other sports go elsewhere like the Pac 10 like MRD hopes. If they stay in the Big 12 though I'd much rather BYU's other sports be there than the WCC.
            hopes?? Mine $.02 was just far flung disaster planning.
            "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

            "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
              Time to camp
              • Nov 2008
              • 26082

              #2871
              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              I don't if they go indy and the other sports go elsewhere like the Pac 10 like MRD hopes. If they stay in the Big 12 though I'd much rather BYU's other sports be there than the WCC.
              Well I'll be pretty shocked if any of those scenarios happen in the next 5 years.
              Get confident, stupid
              -landpoke

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #2872
                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                Well I'll be pretty shocked if any of those scenarios happen in the next 5 years.
                I think in 5 years we could all be pretty shocked at what has happened in college football.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                -Turtle
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                • Mormon Red Death
                  BYU Delenda Est
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8077

                  #2873
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  I think in 5 years we could all be pretty shocked at what has happened in college football.
                  Well that sir is very true.
                  "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                  "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                    Time to camp
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 26082

                    #2874
                    Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                    Well that sir is very true.
                    Those of us that have been true and faithful followers of CUF will not be shocked by Utah's unprecedented 5 straight BCS championships.
                    Get confident, stupid
                    -landpoke

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                    • Surfah
                      Where's Wallace?
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 33726

                      #2875
                      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      hopes?? Mine $.02 was just far flung disaster planning.
                      It's not a bad hope. I don't know how they'd get around the Longhorn network though. Scott seems pretty adamant about not letting them have it and that seems to be the deal breaker for Texas not joining last summer. I really doubt Hawaii would ever be invited. That seems more far flung than Texas' Olympic sports joining the P10.
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                      • Mormon Red Death
                        BYU Delenda Est
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8077

                        #2876
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        It's not a bad hope. I don't know how they'd get around the Longhorn network though. Scott seems pretty adamant about not letting them have it and that seems to be the deal breaker for Texas not joining last summer. I really doubt Hawaii would ever be invited. That seems more far flung than Texas' Olympic sports joining the P10.
                        Since we are in the zone of "hey anything can happen" Hawaii in football doesn't seem that far flung. There are some definite benefits to having hawaii football in your conference. Extra home games for 4 conference teams each year is nice. Adding Hawaii a state that is heavily recruited by your conference isn't bad either. Not to mention its a vacation destination. Plus they would come cheaply so you aren't splitting a lot.

                        As for Texas non football going PAC-10 the best comparison is Notre Dame. Seems to have worked out alright for them. As for the Longhorn Network question just give them broadcast rights on all home games as their Revenue share.

                        IMHO the biggest far flung idea in my above far flung scenario is getting A&M, OK and Mizzou to the Pac-12.
                        "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                        • Portland Ute
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 5647

                          #2877
                          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                          Those of us that have been true and faithful followers of CUF will not be shocked by Utah's unprecedented 5 straight BCS championships.
                          WTF?

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                          • Portland Ute
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5647

                            #2878
                            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            Plus they (Hawaii) would come cheaply so you aren't splitting a lot.
                            Explain this. Are you suggesting that they'd get a much smaller portion of PAC-Whatever revenue?

                            I doubt that. I also doubt that anyone other than USC or UCLA would want to see that happen. It would open Pandora's Box. You'd be taking the first step towards an unequal revenue split.

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                            • Mormon Red Death
                              BYU Delenda Est
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 8077

                              #2879
                              Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                              Explain this. Are you suggesting that they'd get a much smaller portion of PAC-Whatever revenue?

                              I doubt that. I also doubt that anyone other than USC or UCLA would want to see that happen. It would open Pandora's Box. You'd be taking the first step towards an unequal revenue split.
                              Well what is the mwc giving them now for just FB only? It can't be much and the Pac-12 could give them a little more and still not have them be as close as the rest of the conference. Hawaii is already taking less of share to be in the MWC for FB only.

                              From the mwc state of the conference:

                              3. Hawaii only gets a partial share of TV revenue and each team getting around 1.4 to 1.5 million. Not sure if that will be this year or when the new members are added. Have a delay on the stream so I'll have to rewatch when video is posted.
                              http://www.mwcboard.com/www/forums/i...howtopic=34100

                              As far as unequal revenue split it would be a special case (team is only in for FB) and it would be in the favor of everyone else in the conference.
                              Last edited by Mormon Red Death; 08-03-2011, 09:42 AM.
                              "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                              "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                              • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                                Time to camp
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26082

                                #2880
                                With A&M trying to shake up the B12, now might be the time for Larry Scott to invite Oklahoma, Okie State, Kansas and Texas Tech and form the Pac 16.
                                Get confident, stupid
                                -landpoke

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