"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[Donuthole]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Lots of options in there. you can sort the whole league on pretty much any advanced stat

I know, I just go to ESPN out of habit. A habit I probably need to break.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Of course you know who the guy from year 1 is -- you've been talking about him non-stop since. I also know who he was; he did a lot of good things (attack to the hoop, get to the line) and lot of bad things (played offense and defense like he was the guard version of Big Al). I also know this: everyone has bitched about his minutes and how a lack of minutes was stunting his development, and yet here he is in year 3, a vastly improved player from where he was in either year 1 or year 2. OTOH, Klay Thompson, who has received the kind of minutes everyone has wanted to see for Burks because of miracle it would have on his progress, hasn't improved at all. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Also, Burks went to Colorado and Thompson went to Washington St.

[MarkGrace]

Also, Burks went to Colorado and Thompson went to Washington St.

And Thompson's dad played in the NBA and Alec's didn't.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

And Thompson's dad played in the NBA and Alec's didn't.

Exactly.

And Stock's first 3 years: 18, 23, 22 mpg. Isiah Thomas' first 3: 34, 38, 36.

[wapiti]

Exactly.

And Stock's first 3 years: 18, 23, 22 mpg. Isiah Thomas' first 3: 34, 38, 36.

The HOFer or the runt?

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Boler is so bad.

Danny Chau: Alec Burks has amassed 50 points in the last two nights with the Jazz. He came off the bench for both of those games, against the Lakers and Sixers, and 28 of those 50 points have come in the fourth quarter. Burks isn’t likely to be the first (or second, or third) player who comes to mind when you think of Utah’s expansive collection of young talent, but he might put on a better individual show than anyone else on the team.

After a particularly strong drive last night, Jazz play-by-play man Craig Bolerjack asked if there’s anyone in the league who goes to the rim as strongly as Burks does. He might have meant that rhetorically. I couldn’t tell; neither could Matt Harpring, who paused and stammered for a bit to let what had just been said sink in. A beat later, Bolerjack quickly answered his own question by mentioning LeBron. Good save, sort of.

Stylistic comparisons to Dwyane Wade have trickled in since Burks’s college days at Colorado, and it’s a good reference point when trying to describe his style of attack. But he isn’t built like Wade — he’s leaner, more beanstalkish — nor is he as explosive. Yet his body type is what makes his daring drives a spectacle. The hanging reverse layup might be as much of a hallmark of great swingmen as the fadeaway jumper, and Burks has made several beauties this season. He isn’t the strongest slasher in the league, but no one drives to the basket looking like he might end up snapping his own back in half quite like Burks.

Bolerjack has taken to calling Burks the “Magic Man.” It’s an awful nickname without much imagination or context. But, wait, if this catches on and leads to a bunch of highlight mixes of Burks layups set to Heart, I reserve the right to change my opinion.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nb...not-fade-away/

[Donuthole]

Boler is so bad.



http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nb...not-fade-away/

I swear I didn't see this when I posted it in the Jimmer thread. I'm a hack. Nonetheless, as an early champion of the Boler Sucks movement, I love when Boler gets hate from the national media.

[MarkGrace]

I swear I didn't see this when I posted it in the Jimmer thread. I'm a hack. Nonetheless, as an early champion of the Boler Sucks movement, I love when Boler gets hate from the national media.

I did. That's why I posted the Jimmer bit.

[falafel]

I swear I didn't see this when I posted it in the Jimmer thread. I'm a hack. Nonetheless, as an early champion of the Boler Sucks movement, I love when Boler gets hate from the national media.

Boler is unwatchable - if that's possibly, since you don't actually see him much. But when you do see him, how do you avoid staring at that huge gap in his smile? We're living in a country with the most advanced dentistry on the planet. If you make your living on tv, please keep a full set of teeth.

[Blueintheface]

But try to understand, try to understand, try, try, try, to understand, He's not the magic man, Boler, he's just the only one who can.

When he screams "HOUDINI" I want to make his career disappear.

[falafel]

Much of my disrespect for Boler comes from his inability to STFU when Hapring makes some inane joke about Boler's age. That's also where my disrespect for Harpring comes from.

[MarkGrace]

Boler played football.

[smokymountainrain]

So you are going to be able to prove that if Burks had played more minutes, he'd be even better? This should be good!

No. I am going to prove that Burks lack of minutes had very little, if anything to do with his improvement as a player and much more to do with Corbin being unwilling to sit healthy veterans to get Burks time.

See, in your world Corbin is beyond reproach as it relates to his handling of Burks. If Burks plays a lot in his 3rd year in the league, and sucks, Corbin was right to sit him consistently in his 1st and second years. If he's good, then Corbin's sitting him consistently in is 1st and 2nd years is what led to him being a good player in the league. I find that laughable. Regardless of what happens with the player, Corbin did the right thing.

[MarkGrace]

No. I am going to prove that Burks lack of minutes had very little, if anything to do with his improvement as a player and much more to do with Corbin being unwilling to sit healthy veterans to get Burks time.

See, in your world Corbin is beyond reproach as it relates to his handling of Burks. If Burks plays a lot in his 3rd year in the league, and sucks, Corbin was right to sit him consistently in his 1st and second years. If he's good, then Corbin's sitting him consistently in is 1st and 2nd years is what led to him being a good player in the league. I find that laughable. Regardless of what happens with the player, Corbin did the right thing.

[Donuthole]

No. I am going to prove that Burks lack of minutes had very little, if anything to do with his improvement as a player and much more to do with Corbin being unwilling to sit healthy veterans to get Burks time.

See, in your world Corbin is beyond reproach as it relates to his handling of Burks. If Burks plays a lot in his 3rd year in the league, and sucks, Corbin was right to sit him consistently in his 1st and second years. If he's good, then Corbin's sitting him consistently in is 1st and 2nd years is what led to him being a good player in the league. I find that laughable. Regardless of what happens with the player, Corbin did the right thing.

I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but based on your post, I'm pretty sure you don't have an accurate understanding of MG's world.