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  • Originally posted by Commando View Post

    I am very concerned about DeSantis' politics. However, I don't think he is in any danger of winning the primary against a defeated, soon-to-be-convicted-of-multiple-felonies ex-president, which tells you a lot about how poor of a candidate DeSantis really is.
    His trying to one-up Trump in Florida in serving as a template of what to do in other states and I don't expect the activist justices on the Supreme Court to hold him in check.

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    • With friends like these:

      if we do not prevail I will tell you this, we will make President Trump better for having this kind of primary
      Is Ron the debater that Trump is?” he said. “No, no he isn’t.
      Absolutely Donald Trump is the maestro of it right, no doubt about it, right. When he gets on the debate stage, you know, and on his feet, in front of a microphone, he debates like Jack Nicklaus played golf, there’s no doubt about it
      Steve Cortes, a spokesperson for DeSantis's super PAC. Who worked for 2016 and 2020's Trump campaigns...

      https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ehind-00104572
      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • I saw someone the other day say you either fight to the right of Trump, or fight for the independent vote. You can't do both.

        DeSantis is fighting for the Qanon vote. Well at least that's what his wife says:



        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
        - SeattleUte

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        • I actually think that message has broad appeal although I think it targets Trumpers. Most moderate conservatives will get behind the points listed at the end.

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          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
            I actually think that message has broad appeal although I think it targets Trumpers. Most moderate conservatives will get behind the points listed at the end.
            If that's true, the GOP is in a sorry state. This is demagoguery pure and simple. It is meant to rile up the base at the expense of an extreme minority. It follows Trump's worst 'qualities'. Just unnecessarily cruel.
            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
            - SeattleUte

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            • Classic Conservative Platform:

              Schools Open
              Parents Rights Defended
              School Choice
              Communities Protected
              Economic Growth
              Freedom Guaranteed

              Newer issues that concern a lot more than just conservatives:

              Critical Race Theory
              DEI Stopped (This one is a bit tricky but most conservatives view it as a woke cudgel.)
              Child Mutilation (It's not just conservatives that are concerned about this.)
              Girls Sports Saved (People on the left are concerned about this as well.)

              Broad appeal.






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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                Classic Conservative Platform:

                Schools Open
                Parents Rights Defended
                School Choice
                Communities Protected
                Economic Growth
                Freedom Guaranteed

                Newer issues that concern a lot more than just conservatives:

                Critical Race Theory
                DEI Stopped (This one is a bit tricky but most conservatives view it as a woke cudgel.)
                Child Mutilation (It's not just conservatives that are concerned about this.)
                Girls Sports Saved (People on the left are concerned about this as well.)

                Broad appeal.





                Don’t forget xenophobia. . . er, I mean Immigration.

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                • “we will no longer allow you to exploit their innocence to advance your agenda”

                  Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                    Classic Conservative Platform:

                    Schools Open
                    Parents Rights Defended
                    School Choice
                    Communities Protected
                    Economic Growth
                    Freedom Guaranteed

                    Newer issues that concern a lot more than just conservatives:

                    Critical Race Theory
                    DEI Stopped (This one is a bit tricky but most conservatives view it as a woke cudgel.)
                    Child Mutilation (It's not just conservatives that are concerned about this.)
                    Girls Sports Saved (People on the left are concerned about this as well.)

                    Broad appeal.





                    As a conservative, pre-trump style anyways, I’m not sure I get the appeal.

                    Critical race theory problem seems like an invented crisis. Definitely not an important issue for me.
                    I have no idea what DEI is, so once again, a swing and a miss.
                    What are we talking about with child mutilation? Hasn’t that always been illegal? Is this talking about medical procedures on trans kids? That’s my best guess.
                    The girls sports thing is concerning for me, but about #525854 in importance, not really something for the president to address anyways. Local leaders and sports governing bodies are the ones that need to figure this out.

                    The grievances and all the bogeymen have zero pull for me. Give me someone who is going to work on solutions to make the country a better place and brings the country together. I’m sick of this stuff that is tearing us apart.

                    Edit: I looked up DEI. Something else that is low on my list and not something I want the President going after.
                    Last edited by beefytee; 07-07-2023, 11:03 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                      Classic Conservative Platform:

                      Schools Open
                      Parents Rights Defended
                      School Choice
                      Communities Protected
                      Economic Growth
                      Freedom Guaranteed

                      Newer issues that concern a lot more than just conservatives:

                      Critical Race Theory
                      DEI Stopped (This one is a bit tricky but most conservatives view it as a woke cudgel.)
                      Child Mutilation (It's not just conservatives that are concerned about this.)
                      Girls Sports Saved (People on the left are concerned about this as well.)

                      Broad appeal.





                      Bro you actually believe the culture war bull shit ? Lmao. Diversity is bad !

                      Open racism

                      child mutilation ? Lmao
                      the stuff you believe.
                      Last edited by Maximus; 07-08-2023, 06:58 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                        Classic Conservative Platform:

                        Schools Open
                        Parents Rights Defended
                        School Choice
                        Communities Protected
                        Economic Growth
                        Freedom Guaranteed

                        Newer issues that concern a lot more than just conservatives:

                        Critical Race Theory
                        DEI Stopped (This one is a bit tricky but most conservatives view it as a woke cudgel.)
                        Child Mutilation (It's not just conservatives that are concerned about this.)
                        Girls Sports Saved (People on the left are concerned about this as well.)

                        Broad appeal.





                        I thought CRT had died down a bit. At least at my kids' school they haven't had any lessons on this law school based theory in a while.

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                        • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                          Bro you actually believe the culture war bull shit ? Lmao. Diversity is bad !

                          Open racism

                          child mutilation ? Lmao
                          the stuff you believe.
                          Our guy Shaka voted for Trump twice, so it kind of makes sense

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                          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                            Our guy Shaka voted for Trump twice, so it kind of makes sense
                            I sure did. The result is you will try to virtue signal me out of existence.

                            I stated why I voted for Trump. Do you remember why?

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                            • Originally posted by Applejack View Post

                              I thought CRT had died down a bit. At least at my kids' school they haven't had any lessons on this law school based theory in a while.
                              I think it has too. Still, there are those that will try to use it as a weapon to divide and indoctrinate.

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                              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                                Bro you actually believe the culture war bull shit ? Lmao. Diversity is bad !

                                Open racism

                                child mutilation ? Lmao
                                the stuff you believe.
                                There's obviously a culture war. Moderates on both sides are starting to wake up to it. The moderates are also waking up to what a loud portion of the trans community wants to be able to do to your kids. Sex changes and unnecessary hormone therapy for minors = child mutilation. Most people think letting men play on women's sports teams is also looney tunes.

                                I'd wager a majority on here agree with me even if they don't want to wade into the debate.

                                Opposing CRT = open racism? GTFO

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