The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[Viking]

Look, i could be wrong, but I JUST DON'T SEE Texas and A&M going to the Pac10 for two reasons:

1) A&M and UT are going to stay in the same league
2) A&M is NOT going to want to go to the Pac10. Those guys in College Station are about as like-minded with you west coast pansies as BYU is.

Texas is going to get rid of Nebraska, which is a huge victory for UT.

My money is on BYU at a minimum getting invited to the Big 12 to fill in for Colorado ("Utah who? Is that some kinda gawldamn community college?") and then it's just a matter if Utah gets a Pac 10 invite.

Another possibility is TCU & BYU to the Big 12. F$ck the Utes.

But bigger picture, we finally got rid of Colorado (sucks) and Nebraska is leaving. This is Texas' league now and they sure as hell ain't going to bolt for the grab-ass Pac10

[myboynoah]

The case for aTm to break off from Texas and go to the SEC:

Draw swords, Texas A&M Aggies, and carve out your SEC future

For those who think Texas and Texas A&M would never go separate ways, for those who think the Aggie governor's office would never allow it to happen, and for those who think the Aggies have an emotional need to forever chase the Longhorns, like Ahab and Moby Dick, I say it's time for A&M to draw swords and act for itself.

Of course Texas wants A&M to follow it. If the two schools moved together to the Pac-10, Texas could maintain the status quo. With nothing still to differentiate the two schools, the Longhorns could continue their recruiting momentum.

But Texas A&M can change that dramatically by joining the Southeastern Conference.

It could offer recruits a choice, a chance to play in the best football conference in the nation, in front of rabid fans and in sold-out stadiums, in cities and college towns that their families can drive to.

If aTm goes to the SEC, they open the whole of Texas to SEC recruiting. Any advantage it gains on Texas will be eclipsed by the likes of Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee and the rest signing kids in its back yard.

Also, most families will be able to drive to the Pac-16 Turf division games as well.

[myboynoah]

Dallas Morning News article about the possibility of Texas and aTm parting ways.

Sources: Texas, Texas A&M may head in different directions

With Nebraska's departure, the Pac-10 would quickly focus on Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State in the hopes of forming a 16-team, TV network-friendly megaconference.

But A&M isn't yet sold on the package. The Aggies have historic rivals in the SEC, including Arkansas and LSU. They would also give the SEC, which includes football powers Florida and defending national champion Alabama, a key entry point into the Texas market.

After Thursday's meeting, which was attended by A&M President R. Bowen Loftin and athletic director Bill Byrne, the school released a statement: "No decisions were made or agreements reached as a result of these discussions."

The school also reported that no meetings of the board of regents have been scheduled.

One regent, A&M football legend Gene Stallings, told the Austin American-Statesman that the Longhorns and Aggies could join separate conferences.

"I would think there would be a possibility, but to say they'd definitely do that ...?" said Stallings, a former A&M coach who later won a national title at Alabama. "I don't know who all will be involved. But I'd be stupid not to say that. Whether it's much of a possibility, I don't know. I'm not going to venture out on that until I know what all the options are."

Former A&M football coach R.C. Slocum, reached by phone, said he was pleased that Loftin "was very much involved and engaged" just like Texas President William Powers.

"It's such a big decision that I'm glad it will be at the highest level," Slocum said.

Sources indicated that A&M will probably still join Texas and the others in the Pac-10.

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While still expressing hope for a pared-down Big 12 with 10 teams, Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione told the Tulsa World that he is committed to remaining with Texas.

"I think it would be a horrendous decision for OU and Texas to break up," Castiglione said. "We're going to stick together if it's at all possible."

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On a teleconference following Colorado's announcement, Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott declined to specifically address other Big 12 possibilities.

"No invitations have been issued," he said. "There are still several different scenarios that we may or may not pursue."

A source said that Utah and perhaps Kansas might be considered as replacements for A&M in the 16-team Pac-10 model.

"I'm authorized to pursue several different scenarios," Scott said. "What direction it goes in from this point, I can't say because I don't know."

That's the first time I've seen a source suggest Kansas as a possible aTm replacement.

[pellegrino]

The case for aTm to break off from Texas and go to the SEC:

Draw swords, Texas A&M Aggies, and carve out your SEC future



If aTm goes to the SEC, they open the whole of Texas to SEC recruiting. Any advantage it gains on Texas will be eclipsed by the likes of Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee and the rest signing kids in its back yard.

Also, most families will be able to drive to the Pac-16 Turf division games as well.

Yeah, their logic isn't that clear on that one, especially the driving distance. The Big 12 south teams are much closer than the SEC west teams. If I'm A&M, I don't want the SEC coming to Texas, simply because they won't gain any recruiting advantage for at least a decade, and even then only if they begin to win immediately. A&M would be foolish to go the SEC. They're much better off staying with the Texas and Oklahoma schools. Besides, Texas wasn't a factor until Mack Brown started coaching there and there's at least a 50/50 chance that after Mack retires or leaves they'll have a let down. It's the natural ebb and flow of things.

[myboynoah]

Yeah, their logic isn't that clear on that one, especially the driving distance. The Big 12 south teams are much closer than the SEC west teams. If I'm A&M, I don't want the SEC coming to Texas, simply because they won't gain any recruiting advantage for at least a decade, and even then only if they begin to win immediately. A&M would be foolish to go the SEC. They're much better off staying with the Texas and Oklahoma schools. Besides, Texas wasn't a factor until Mack Brown started coaching there and there's at least a 50/50 chance that after Mack retires or leaves they'll have a let down. It's the natural ebb and flow of things.

Good point on being a weak sister in the SEC. Seems like it's all downside on the recruiting side. The article also makes another silly reference to more money in the SEC. Sure, until the new Pac-16 negotiates its TV contract or even establishes its own PACN.

On scheduling, word is that if aTm separates from the rest of the Big 12 South it will be frozen out on scheduling. No Texas, no OK, no TTech, and probably none of the other Texas schools as well. They would be that pissed over aTm opening Texas up to SEC recruting.

In the end, I think they go along with the rest to the Pac.

[Uncle Ted]

Look, i could be wrong, but I JUST DON'T SEE Texas and A&M going to the Pac10 for two reasons:

1) A&M and UT are going to stay in the same league
2) A&M is NOT going to want to go to the Pac10. Those guys in College Station are about as like-minded with you west coast pansies as BYU is.

Texas is going to get rid of Nebraska, which is a huge victory for UT.

My money is on BYU at a minimum getting invited to the Big 12 to fill in for Colorado ("Utah who? Is that some kinda gawldamn community college?") and then it's just a matter if Utah gets a Pac 10 invite.

Another possibility is TCU & BYU to the Big 12. F$ck the Utes.

But bigger picture, we finally got rid of Colorado (sucks) and Nebraska is leaving. This is Texas' league now and they sure as hell ain't going to bolt for the grab-ass Pac10

Nebraska going to the Big Ten is a victory for UT but a lost for the Big 12 conference. Oh well.

There are some other crazy-*ss rumors flying around that UT and ND could announce they are going to the Big Ten. OU and A&M, of course, then would go to the SEC and Bama and Aurburn would move to the East division. I can't see this really happening. Texas has it too well in the Big 12. Besides even though there are a lot of private jets flying in and out of Texas I can't see fans wanting to make a lot of trips up north. And who is going to help pay for Jerry's World if there is no red river game every year?

I am betting that the Big 12 will get things patched up by Texas agreeing they won't start the Longhorn TV network but instead start a Big 12 conference network and, therefore, sharing the TV money. The Big 12 will most likely invite BYU and Air Force (although I would like to see Utah invited instead of the AFA). If they kick out Missouri then maybe Utah will get invited as well.

[pellegrino]

Good point on being a weak sister in the SEC. Seems like it's all downside on the recruiting side. The article also makes another silly reference to more money in the SEC. Sure, until the new Pac-16 negotiates its TV contract or even establishes its own PACN.

On scheduling, word is that if aTm separates from the rest of the Big 12 South it will be frozen out on scheduling. No Texas, no OK, no TTech, and probably none of the other Texas schools as well. They would be that pissed over aTm opening Texas up to SEC recruting.

In the end, I think they go along with the rest to the Pac.

I'd heard that about the scheduling freeze in retaliation for their betrayal. I don't blame the other Texas teams for doing that one bit.

In the end I think they will go to the PAC 16 but I'd rather that Texas quit their grandiose dreams of Longhorn Network, that they work out a more equitable revenue sharing plan and that everyone stays in the Big XII. I think the PAC 16 or the Big 16 would be the end of college football as an enjoyable sport to follow.

[dabrockster]

Mark Cuban behind getting Texas and aTm to the Big Ten? Welcome to the rabbit hole, folks.

Big Ten Expansion – Texas and Texas A&M May Choose Big Ten

Where exactly is the Mark Cuban quote?? I couldn't find it in that link???

[myboynoah]

Where exactly is the Mark Cuban quote?? I couldn't find it in that link???

Down in the comments section, I think the second or third one. The author added it there.

[Uncle Ted]

Yeah, their logic isn't that clear on that one, especially the driving distance. The Big 12 south teams are much closer than the SEC west teams. If I'm A&M, I don't want the SEC coming to Texas, simply because they won't gain any recruiting advantage for at least a decade, and even then only if they begin to win immediately. A&M would be foolish to go the SEC. They're much better off staying with the Texas and Oklahoma schools.

Yes, the Big-12 just needs to get their revenue sharing problem fixed (e.g. start the Big-12 network) and then A&M will be more open to staying. Hell, maybe even NU will stay. I have to wonder if this is all just a way to force Texas' hand.

Besides, Texas wasn't a factor until Mack Brown started coaching there and there's at least a 50/50 chance that after Mack retires or leaves they'll have a let down. It's the natural ebb and flow of things.

LOL. Texas did very well under Darrell Royal. Texas also wins a lot of national championships in other sports as well.

[dabrockster]

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[dabrockster]

The case for aTm to break off from Texas and go to the SEC:

Draw swords, Texas A&M Aggies, and carve out your SEC future



If aTm goes to the SEC, they open the whole of Texas to SEC recruiting. Any advantage it gains on Texas will be eclipsed by the likes of Florida, Alabama, LSU, Tennessee and the rest signing kids in its back yard.

Also, most families will be able to drive to the Pac-16 Turf division games as well.

Or they become the Baylor of the SEC...

[dabrockster]

Down in the comments section, I think the second or third one. The author added it there.

Thanks!!

[myboynoah]

Nebraska Board of Regents meeting today at 1:00 pm central to consider move to Big 10.

Neb. Regents To Hear Whether Big Ten Is Better Fit

Posted Friday, June 11, 2010 --- 8:00 a.m.

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- Members of the University of Nebraska Board of Regents say they'll come armed with questions when chancellor Harvey Perlman and athletic director Tom Osborne brief them on whether the Cornhuskers should leave the Big 12 Conference.

The regents will take up the conference-alignment issue at their 1 p.m. meeting Friday in Lincoln. They say they expect to hear the pros and cons of joining the Big Ten.

The football-driven move would allow the Huskers to double their conference-derived revenue, to about $20 million in the Big Ten.

But regent Randy Ferlic says he wants to know, among other things, whether the financial gains would be offset by harm to the Huskers' other 22 sports.

After the briefing, regents could vote to leave the Big 12.

[Surfah]

Nebraska Board of Regents meeting today at 1:00 pm central to consider move to Big 10.

Neb. Regents To Hear Whether Big Ten Is Better Fit

So they may not leave after all?

I like that Mizzou hasn't received that invite they were expecting. Talk about awkward should they have to come back to the Big 12 with their tails between their legs.