2024 Presidential Election Thread

[USUC]

For some reason, I thought of Teddy Roosevelt finishing his campaign speech in Milwaukee after taking a bullet and figured the Secret Service wouldn’t allow that today.

TR lost that election though so maybe this doesn't mean Trump is a shoo in.

[frank ryan]

Yup, that too. Loved his line, speaking to the audience, “I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.”

Didn't Teddy express some concern for the would be assassin?

[Jeff Lebowski]

It wasn’t a crass political calculation. It was instinct on his part. He adores getting adored, and in a moment when he should have worried more about his safety than his image, he did exactly what you’d expect him to do. Those few seconds were the perfect distillation of what Trump is.

I despise Trump for many things. This doesn’t register as one of the more important things to worry about. But it isn’t ridiculous to fault him for showing us again what he is. At the very least, let’s not put him up on the badass pedestal or suggest he’s a better leader because of it.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm sincerely thankful Trump wasn't killed (and I believe my feelings about DJT are fairly clear), but within a few minutes after it was clear he was going to be okay I thought, perhaps inappropriately, of Patton right after he had strongly disputed the visiting British generals' claim that they had air superiority, and they were then strafed by a couple of Nazi fighters. Patton said if he could he'd "find those Nazi sunuvabitches and give them each a medal." Rather than remove Trump from the race, the shooter pretty much ensured his election.

Can you imagine if that bullet would have been a few inches over and he was assassinated with all those cameras rolling? This entire mess is going to be awful but we came real close to anarchy. Yeesh.

[Shaka]

It wasn’t a crass political calculation. It was instinct on his part. He adores getting adored, and in a moment when he should have worried more about his safety than his image, he did exactly what you’d expect him to do. Those few seconds were the perfect distillation of what Trump is.

I despise Trump for many things. This doesn’t register as one of the more important things to worry about. But it isn’t ridiculous to fault him for showing us again what he is. At the very least, let’s not put him up on the badass pedestal or suggest he’s a better leader because of it.

An even more ridiculous response.

[Northwestcoug]

An even more ridiculous response.

I might have thought he was more badass had he not been worrying about his shoes at the podium.

[tooblue]

You don't understand the recent Supreme Court ruling. I'm with LC and USUC; this kind of talk is extremely unhelpful from either side. People are responsible for their own actions but if you tell people Hitler is rising enough times eventually some of them will feel compelled to stop Hitler by any means necessary. Not unlike the Jan 6 crowd that was lied to about the election enough times they felt justified in rioting. These are not smart people on either side that go this far. They are fanatics. But the smart leaders in both parties stoking the fires and raising the temperature for 8 years bear some responsibility for where we are.

The ruling is not difficult to understand. His legal team is already using it to potentially over turn his conviction:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...mmunity-ruling

I am as conservative as they come. When Trump first ran for president, my instincts told me he was dangerous. My instincts were correct as validated by his actions, direct and in-direct, on January 6 and his continued lying and attempts to undermine elections.

This isn't complicated. My instincts tell me this situation increases the threat he poses in ways we can't yet understand. I am not being hyperbolic. You raised the spectre of Hitler, but I am living in the present and I am concerned about Trump with good reason.

[Uncle Ted]

Only 150 yds, stationary target, shooter in a prone, supported position . . .

Maybe the shooter was just a really poor shot.

Or took the shot rather quickly after coming above the roof ridge. There is video of the SS snipers that apparently shot the assailant who obviously had eyes on him. I am sure everyone will be asking why the shooter was allowed to get so many shots off.

[Uncle Ted]

The suspect shooter… https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...s-say/3911339/

20 year old who registered republican but donated to the democrats. Must have hated trump so much he registered as a GOP’er to vote for his opponent in the primaries.

[Uncle Ted]

Can you imagine if that bullet would have been a few inches over and he was assassinated with all those cameras rolling? This entire mess is going to be awful but we came real close to anarchy. Yeesh.

I have to wonder about trump’s reaction… did he not realize how close he came to death? He seemed to be more worried about his shoe (that came off?) than his own life.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Can you imagine if that bullet would have been a few inches over and he was assassinated with all those cameras rolling? This entire mess is going to be awful but we came real close to anarchy. Yeesh.

Absolutely. Trump dying that way would be much, much worse than his survival and winning the election.

[Moliere]

Did Biden really say "it's time to put Trump in the bullseye" just four days ago? If so, the timing of that statement is just really, really bad for Biden (even though he should have never said it to begin with).

[Bo Diddley]

Only 150 yds, stationary target, shooter in a prone, supported position . . .

Maybe the shooter was just a really poor shot.

When I learned the details, I thought the same thing. But if it was an AR, he was probably an amateur. Not the best choice of weapons--likely what he had available and familiar with.

[Northwestcoug]

Man China is on the ball:

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[BigFatMeanie]

Did Biden really say "it's time to put Trump in the bullseye" just four days ago? If so, the timing of that statement is just really, really bad for Biden (even though he should have never said it to begin with).

Yes he did. It was on a cal with donors, but his campaign team sent the quote out to journalists.