2024 Presidential Election Thread

[falafel]

This looks like fun. Nazis show up to support DeSantis.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...d/70310731007/

I have no reason to believe this is true, but this is a scenario where I might actually believe that there is a false flag operation going on. 15 people with both DeSantis and Nazi flags protesting outside Disney? Checks all the boxes.

[BlueK]

I have no reason to believe this is true, but this is a scenario where I might actually believe that there is a false flag operation going on. 15 people with both DeSantis and Nazi flags protesting outside Disney? Checks all the boxes.

Fake Nazis?

[Clark Addison]

I have no reason to believe this is true, but this is a scenario where I might actually believe that there is a false flag operation going on. 15 people with both DeSantis and Nazi flags protesting outside Disney? Checks all the boxes.

Same. It wouldn't surprise me either way on this one.

[frank ryan]

I have no reason to believe this is true, but this is a scenario where I might actually believe that there is a false flag operation going on. 15 people with both DeSantis and Nazi flags protesting outside Disney? Checks all the boxes.

That's too Alex Jonesian. Nazis hate gays and immigrants like DeSantis. It's not big a leap. Did you expect 200 Nazis?

[Non Sequitur]

Same. It wouldn't surprise me either way on this one.

Whether it is or not, what I'm waiting to see is whether DeSantis denounces the Nazis. I'm guessing he doesn't.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I have no reason to believe this is true, but this is a scenario where I might actually believe that there is a false flag operation going on. 15 people with both DeSantis and Nazi flags protesting outside Disney? Checks all the boxes.

That was my first thought too.

[smokymountainrain]

Whether it is or not, what I'm waiting to see is whether DeSantis denounces the Nazis. I'm guessing he doesn't.

yup. that's the real question. it's a perfect opportunity for desantis to do just that. but this ron desantis we're talking about. chances are it won't happen. a zebra can't change its stripes.

[Jeff Lebowski]

yup. that's the real question. it's a perfect opportunity for desantis to do just that. but this ron desantis we're talking about. chances are it won't happen. a zebra can't change its stripes.

You could argue that the best response sometimes is to ignore something. Not give it more publicity.

Surely you folks don't really believe that DeSantis is an actual real-life nazi, do you?

[Northwestcoug]

You could argue that the best response sometimes is to ignore something. Not give it more publicity.

Surely you folks don't really believe that DeSantis is an actual real-life nazi, do you?

Maybe not an Illinois nazi.

[smokymountainrain]

You could argue that the best response sometimes is to ignore something. Not give it more publicity.

Surely you folks don't really believe that DeSantis is an actual real-life nazi, do you?

i don't know who "you folks" is(are?), but since you responded to my post, i'll answer.

no, i don't believe he is. that said, i doubt he would have a problem garnering their support. it wouldn't take much more than a sentence or two to denounce them.

[Clark Addison]

Maybe not an Illinois nazi.

I hate Illinois Nazis

(Gov DeSantis, feel free to plagiarize this template)

[BigFatMeanie]

Shame away.

Of the 3 currently-declared D candidates, I will vote for none of them.

Of the 8 currently-declared R candidates, I would consider voting for any of them except Trump, Perry Johnson, and Vivek, who both want to pardon Trump. I like some of Vivek's other ideas but wanting to pardon Trump is disqualifying for me. I am an unrepentant never-Trumper, never-Hillaryer, and never-Bidener..

If the election were held today and the candidates were Biden (D), pretty much any of the declared (R) candidates not named above, and various randos from various rando parties, I would probably vote for the R, which includes DeSantis. <ProgressiveLogic>Obviously this means I must agree with every action, policy, position, word, and even every thought those R candidates have.</ProgressiveLogic>

If the election were held today and the candidates were Biden (D), Trump (R), and various randos from various rando parties, I would vote for a rando or write in Mitt Romney.

If the election were held today and the candidates were some reasonably-rational-and-not-completely-batshit-crazy D, Trump (R), and various randos from various rando parties, I would consider voting D for president for the first time in my life. I have voted D for non-presidential offices but never for President.

Based on the current political climate in the USA and the general level of idiocy amongst my fellow Americans, I think the most likely outcome of all the above scenarios is that I write in Mitt.

An update on where I'm at now:

Republicans (I'm not a Republican so i can't actually vote in their primary in the state of Utah):
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Still under consideration:
Chris Christie
Nikki Haley
Tim Scott
Mike Pence
Doug Burgum
Asa Hutchinson

Not under consideration:
Ron DeSantis - It is true that I considered him in the past but I've now crossed him off the list.
Larry Elder
Perry Johnson
Vivek R.

Never in a million years:
Donald Trump

Democrats (I'm not a Democrat either but they let anyone vote in their primary in the state of Utah):
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Still under consideration:

Not under consideration:
Marianne Williamson
RFK Jr.

Never in a million years:
Joe Biden

[Bo Diddley]

I'd love to see a moderate GOP get the nomination, but until they show they're serious about sanity, I'll continue to vote for the Donkeys. For now, I'm ridin' with creepy Joe Biden.

[Jeff Lebowski]

i don't know who "you folks" is(are?), but since you responded to my post, i'll answer.

no, i don't believe he is. that said, i doubt he would have a problem garnering their support. it wouldn't take much more than a sentence or two to denounce them.

Or he could ignore them and not give them any more publicity. Even less work!

I mean, what is it about this case that demands an explicit response. Crap like this happens on social media constantly and it would be silly to demand an explicit response to each one. Help me understand the rules.

[Copelius]

An update on where I'm at now:

Republicans (I'm not a Republican so i can't actually vote in their primary in the state of Utah):
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Still under consideration:
Chris Christie (VP pick will be a big concern)
Nikki Haley
Tim Scott
Mike Pence
Doug Burgum
Asa Hutchinson

Not under consideration:
Ron DeSantis - It is true that I considered him in the past but I've now crossed him off the list.
Larry Elder
Perry Johnson
Vivek R.

Never in a million years:
Donald Trump

Democrats (I'm not a Democrat either but they let anyone vote in their primary in the state of Utah):
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Still under consideration:

Not under consideration:
Marianne Williamson
RFK Jr.

Never in a million years:
Joe Biden
Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren

Thanks for doing most of the typing for me.