Wah-hoo-wah! BYU @ Virginia

[The_Douger]

I don't doubt that being in the Pac12 is an advantage. I don't think it has anything to do with playing for a conference championship though. And I don't think this is a good reason to go back to the MWC, as some people do. Notre Dame sure doesn't seem to be losing any recruits over not playing for a title. The key to recruiting is winning. I guarantee we will out recruit Utah when they are struggling to be bowl eligible and we are winning 10+ games a season.

I just don't see some kid being like "I'm going to Utah State because I'll get to challenge for that amazing MWC championship." I only really see this being an issue if we're going against higher end schools. We don't lose recruits to teams like Boise and Utah State very often. We compete for the good LDS kids with Utah, Oregon State, and other schools like that.

My point is, it matters if we're talking about the higher end players who have PAC offers.

[Indy Coug]

This is important, because Taysom Hill reminds everyone of Jim McMahon.

It means that if it can happen to Jim McMahon, then it probably can happen to anyone.

[The_Douger]

This is not true. BYU gains lots of things from being in the mwc. You just don't think that they are important.

Going forward, we're going to see 5 of these teams a year on our schedule. I don't know why we don't just do a scheduling agreement and participate in their bowls.

[San Juan Sun]

No dipshit, it means that if it can happen to Jim McMahon, then it probably can happen to anyone.

So your point is that even good QBs lose games? Thanks for the newsflash. Have you emailed that to Dick Harmon yet?

[Indy Coug]

So your point is that even good QBs lose games? Thanks for the newsflash. Have you emailed that to Dick Harmon yet?

The point is that weird shit happens during opening season games. BYU blew 2 undefeated seasons in 1980 and 1983 losing to crappy teams on the road they had no business losing to.

If BYU played the way it did to open the season against UTEP in 1990 against Miami the next week, they would have lost by 40 points.

[San Juan Sun]

The point is that weird shit happens during opening season games. BYU blew 2 undefeated seasons in 1980 and 1983 losing to crappy teams on the road they had no business losing to.

If BYU played the way it did against UTEP in 1990 to open the season against Miami the next week, they would have lost by 40 points.

Nobody disputes that the UVA game was weird, but to bring up Jimmy Mac and the 1990 team (in contrast to the 2013 team) seems like apples to oranges.

[UVACoug]

I just don't see some kid being like "I'm going to Utah State because I'll get to challenge for that amazing MWC championship." I only really see this being an issue if we're going against higher end schools. We don't lose recruits to teams like Boise and Utah State very often. We compete for the good LDS kids with Utah, Oregon State, and other schools like that.

My point is, it matters if we're talking about the higher end players who have PAC offers.

I don't think that is the point Shaka and others are trying to make. They seem to think being in the MWC will improve recruiting (if I'm wrong about that, I apologize ... I know there are some here that think that way). I still don't think it is the conference championships that attract recruits to the big conference, though I could be wrong. It is the "prestige" factor. The best players in college football play in those conferences, so of course that is where people want to play. BYU has never been in those conferences and is perceived as a "little guy" because of it. That is the reason we struggle to recruit against Pac12 teams.

I am 100% in favor of BYU getting into the Big 12 or Pac12. It has nothing to do with playing for a conference title though.

[UVACoug]

Nobody disputes that the UVA game was weird, but to bring up Jimmy Mac and the 1990 team (in contrast to the 2013 team) seems like apples to oranges.

Do you know what an analogy is?

[San Juan Sun]

Do you know what an analogy is?

You got annihilated with your argument, I doubt Indy wants/needs your help.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I just want to thank you all for providing the morning's entertainment

[UVACoug]

You got annihilated with your argument, I doubt Indy wants/needs your help.

Really? You annihilated me by saying Notre Dame is not BYU. Really?

[San Juan Sun]

Really? You annihilated me by saying Notre Dame is not BYU. Really?

Fo rills.

[Surfah]

Sometimes I feel like I watch a completely different game than some of the posters here.

Go fast go hard may not have produced the points I would have liked but the tempo was insane amd UVA was clearly gassed. The lightening storm actually saved them they were wearing down. Also the delay came right in the middle of a solid byu drive.

DDD and I both commented that we were surprised with how few penalties we had by the offense.

Love you Phat but Mizzell had 7 carries for 19 yards, 3 kickoff returns with an 18 yard average and a fumble. Smoke didn't impress me.

Eli Harold had 11 tackles, 2 sacks and 3.5 tackles for loss. That is impressive.

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I think I made many of these points in my game summary. I was surprised with BYU's offense with the way they were able to get to the line and get off plays so quickly. They didn't produce the results I wanted but their ability to get on the ball and snap as soon as the ref set the ball was impressive. I also expected way more procedural penalties given the pace. We weren't dinged that much at all. A couple of false starts but no more than we saw with previous offenses. I thought Peck played well in the middle too. Makes me wish we had TK because we'd be that much deeper and Manu could play opposite Bronson and we'd be really stout up front.

There is no doubt in my mind that the lightning delay helped UVA. BYU had momentum, were at midfield and the defense was tiring when they called a stop to play. We were pissed in the stands because the storm didn't move in for about 20-30 minutes. I really wish they would have let the game go a few more minutes because I think BYU would have scored on that drive.

Like Tree said in his blog and like I mentioned in my original game summary, Anae needs to realize GFGH is the wrong choice in certain situations. We should have burned clock before the first half and prevented UVA from even being able to attempt that 54 yard FG. And we should have done it again after the turnover on the kick off and most definitely on the drive with the pickle. We have to manage the clock in those situations and force the opponent to use their timeouts. Anae should know better, but I think Bronco needs to step in those moments as well and tell them to grind the clock.

GFGH still just feels weird, but I saw enough in spurts (the 92 yard drive especially) that I am not bailing. I understand Bronco and Anae wanting a schematic advantage like LaVell had with his pass happy offense to compete against better teams. I think it's just going to take some games to get it going and maybe a season or two of recruiting before it is really something that can complement the defense Bronco has built. As I said before the season, this year will go as Taysom's arm and the OL go. So far both are huge question marks. I am hopeful they improve but that will be a difficult task as the competition only gets stiffer. UVA was not a good team. They will get destroyed by Oregon at home this week and we will see what the spread option when running on all cylinders does to UVA.

[Art Vandelay]

Some things never change. The guy who calls people "dipshit" and "asshole", who routinely drops F-bombs on people (who is, interestingly on the CS Mt. Rushmore of Mormon Orthodoxy), who constantly barrages the Internet with misleading stats, who has probably the largest Internet archive of BS prognostications/opinions proved demonstratably wrong, thinks I'm reading too much into this. I'm just a regular guy, I'm no analyst or coach, and you shouldn't be surprised when the unwashed like myself show up when you are chumming the waters. Applied to the current BYU situation, I gauruntee that 90% of the people who read your post about Jim McMahon thought the same thing I did. Maybe we're all idiots or dipshits or whatever... or maybe you made a dumb point and you're trying find any way out of it.

In fairness to Indy, all those things are said way more about him, than by him.

[Indy Coug]

Some things never change. The guy who calls people "dipshit" and "asshole", who routinely drops F-bombs on people (who is, interestingly on the CS Mt. Rushmore of Mormon Orthodoxy), who constantly barrages the Internet with misleading stats, who has probably the largest Internet archive of BS prognostications/opinions proved demonstratably wrong, thinks I'm reading too much into this. I'm just a regular guy, I'm no analyst or coach, and you shouldn't be surprised when the unwashed like myself show up when you are chumming the waters. Applied to the current BYU situation, I gauruntee that 90% of the people who read your post about Jim McMahon thought the same thing I did. Maybe we're all idiots or dipshits or whatever... or maybe you made a dumb point and you're trying find any way out of it.

I don't know who (if anyone) is placing me on any monuments of orthodoxy, nor why, but it's not me that's doing it. I posted this on CB and despite the huge number of slobbering morons that reside there, no one came away with the conclusion you did.