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  • PolyCougar
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 242

    #12421
    Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
    True. Church leaders might care more about the BYUTV network than BYU football. It is quite possible that they view BYU football as a means of supporting their worldwide network and not the other way around. This outlook sucks for a BYU fan, but I can see why they might want the BYU brand to go that direction.

    A foolish notion IMHO, but it is possible.
    I know and work with a lot of the BYUtv higher ups. If they're on this site at all they'll know who I am in an instant, just because the number of Poly's in TV are kinda slim.

    In any case, I've had lots of talks with them about sports. First off, the church leadership is pretty hands off right now with the direction BYUtv is going. Trust me, if leadership was as into pushing the channel as much as everybody keeps acting then "Church Correlation" would be involved with programing and half the new shows would immediately be canned. (I get why those guys exist, but can't stand having them around when we work).

    I had a beef with the fact they wouldn't show BYU Rugby, and the answer was pretty easy for the exec. Rugby is not an official D1 sport and therefore doesn't help pay the bills when it comes to costs of broadcasting, where the sports department pays up for all other D1's. But if they found a way for costs to be covered with sponsors and such then of course they'd consider it.

    I really think BYUtv has always been fine with 3rd tier rights or whatever. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if they welcomed a cutback on sports. They like the money that comes with it, but don't depend entirely on it. The channel is changing to more of a Cable Network that broadcasts within LDS standards and ideals, but doesn't preach "Mormon, Mormon, Mormon... scripture study". Which I like, considering what I do in producing different things for the channel as a free-lancer.

    Sorry about the long response, I just had to pipe in with people talking about BYUtv like its the brethren's new shiny toy. The truck is awesome, and for the right price... anybody can use it, including the sports department when it makes sense. They see the positives of BYUtv, but I really don't see it being the total sticking point to some problems (aka Conference discussions), like it's made out to be. I think it's an easy excuse by others, that don't want to say what they really think (like Sunday play).

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    • LiveCoug
      LA Ute loves me
      • Nov 2008
      • 18486

      #12422
      Originally posted by PolyCougar View Post
      I know and work with a lot of the BYUtv higher ups. If they're on this site at all they'll know who I am in an instant, just because the number of Poly's in TV are kinda slim.

      In any case, I've had lots of talks with them about sports. First off, the church leadership is pretty hands off right now with the direction BYUtv is going. Trust me, if leadership was as into pushing the channel as much as everybody keeps acting then "Church Correlation" would be involved with programing and half the new shows would immediately be canned. (I get why those guys exist, but can't stand having them around when we work).

      I had a beef with the fact they wouldn't show BYU Rugby, and the answer was pretty easy for the exec. Rugby is not an official D1 sport and therefore doesn't help pay the bills when it comes to costs of broadcasting, where the sports department pays up for all other D1's. But if they found a way for costs to be covered with sponsors and such then of course they'd consider it.

      I really think BYUtv has always been fine with 3rd tier rights or whatever. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if they welcomed a cutback on sports. They like the money that comes with it, but don't depend entirely on it. The channel is changing to more of a Cable Network that broadcasts within LDS standards and ideals, but doesn't preach "Mormon, Mormon, Mormon... scripture study". Which I like, considering what I do in producing different things for the channel as a free-lancer.

      Sorry about the long response, I just had to pipe in with people talking about BYUtv like its the brethren's new shiny toy. The truck is awesome, and for the right price... anybody can use it, including the sports department when it makes sense. They see the positives of BYUtv, but I really don't see it being the total sticking point to some problems (aka Conference discussions), like it's made out to be. I think it's an easy excuse by others, that don't want to say what they really think (like Sunday play).
      Big Buddha, is that you?

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 37894

        #12423
        Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
        Big Buddha, is that you?
        Nailed it.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Art Vandelay
          Striving for mediocrity
          • Jul 2009
          • 10516

          #12424
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Tommy Tuberville sez: I want 12.
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          Petrino only wanted two, and look how well that turned out for him.

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          • PolyCougar
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 242

            #12425
            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
            Big Buddha, is that you?
            I don't know if "Big Buddha" and "Slim" can reside together... besides, that dudes Samoan, I'm Tongan.

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186

              #12426
              Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
              Petrino only wanted two, and look how well that turned out for him.
              Petrino was getting a lot more than two.
              Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

              sigpic

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              • YOhio
                Hipster Mode
                • Nov 2008
                • 26165

                #12427
                Greg Swaim at Big Time Sports is tweeting that BYU's entrance to the Big XII is quite unlikely due to sabotage.

                @JonVoy Sadly the possibilities are looking more remote on a daily basis. Some sabotage going on.
                @mattedwards99 I wouldn't say the #BYU to #Big12 ship has sailed, but several teams are wanting to move out of Provo Port for some reason.

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                • Flystripper
                  Degenerate Gambler
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14088

                  #12428
                  Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                  Greg Swaim at Big Time Sports is tweeting that BYU's entrance to the Big XII is quite unlikely due to sabotage.
                  Sabotage is a strange word choice.
                  Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                  • Mormon Red Death
                    BYU Delenda Est
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 8077

                    #12429
                    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    Greg Swaim at Big Time Sports is tweeting that BYU's entrance to the Big XII is quite unlikely due to sabotage.
                    The Ghost of Ann Richards
                    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                    • YOhio
                      Hipster Mode
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 26165

                      #12430
                      Know who I miss? Guys like @BYUTANK, @JacobN5, and @BYUDeepThrowt.

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                      • YOhio
                        Hipster Mode
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 26165

                        #12431
                        Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                        Sabotage is a strange word choice.
                        I can't stand it! I know they planned it!

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                        • Solon
                          Lost in the flood
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5747

                          #12432
                          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                          Sabotage is a strange word choice.
                          I can't stand it.

                          Maybe our crystal ball ain't so crystal clear.
                          "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                          -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #12433
                            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            The Ghost of Ann Richards
                            I am guessing SU.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • kccougar
                              9262
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7020

                              #12434
                              Why does GSwaim hate BYU?
                              "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                              • San Juan Sun
                                Kicked to the curb
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9214

                                #12435
                                Originally posted by Solon View Post
                                I can't stand it.

                                Maybe our crystal ball ain't so crystal clear.
                                I just sit back and wonder why
                                I got this Big 12 thorn in my side
                                "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                                - Ty Cobb

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