The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[landpoke]

What about the old Pac-8 is so intriguing? Why do the Cali Schools love the NW schools more than Arizona schools? What do the NW schools have in common with the Cali schools that the Ariz schools don't?

They're near the water. Arizona is not.

[TripletDaddy]

What about the old Pac-8 is so intriguing? Why do the Cali Schools love the NW schools more than Arizona schools? What do the NW schools have in common with the Cali schools that the Ariz schools don't?

It isn't intrigue. It is simply tradition. The AZ schools are viewed as the stepchildren. I can't explain why, that is just how it goes. One reason may be the AZ is the only PAC school to have never played in a Rose Bowl...that really hurts their credibility. BUt it wouldn't even be a point of debate if the California schools had to choose between the PacNorWest schools or the Arizona schools. The Oregon schools are founding members of the PAC and have always been viewed that way. Don't rely so heavily on google.

[LA Ute]

What about the old Pac-8 is so intriguing? Why do the Cali Schools love the NW schools more than Arizona schools? What do the NW schools have in common with the Cali schools that the Ariz schools don't?

Among other things, it's the coastal nature of the group - California with 4 schools and Oregon and Washington with 2 each. In 1978 ASU and UA were seen as interlopers by many back in the day. Kind of odd, because the Oregon schools had only joined 14 years earlier, IIRC, in 1964, and I don't think it was even called the PAC-8 until 1968. Before then it was the AAUW or something along those lines.

I think (DDD can correct me) that the PAC-8 nostalgia is pretty much limited to old-timers who still remember that era, which would exclude most people born after about 1970. So I am not sure how realistic it is to worry about the old PAC-8 taking off by itself. Besides, why would they want to give up the Utah TV market?

[TripletDaddy]

Among other things, it's the coastal nature of the group - California with 4 schools and Oregon and Washington with 2 each. In 1978 ASU and UA were seen as interlopers by many back in the day. Kind of odd, because the Oregon schools had only joined 14 years earlier, IIRC, in 1964, and I don't think it was even called the PAC-8 until 1968. Before then it was the AAUW or something along those lines.

I think (DDD can correct me) that the PAC-8 nostalgia is pretty much limited to old-timers who still remember that era, which would exclude most people born after about 1970. So I am not sure how realistic it is to worry about the old PAC-8 taking off by itself. Besides, why would they want to give up the Utah TV market?

Guys, knock it off and stop pretending to know the exact dates that Oregon and OSU joined the PAC or what years the PAC changed its name.

Oregon and OSU are considered founding members and have always been considered founding members. They consider themselves charter members. LA Ute is correct in that the AZ schools enjoy Least Favored Nation status within the conference, for whatever the reason. Again, I do think the Zoo never playing in a Rose Bowl plays a part in that. Even Wazzou enjoyed some relatively recent prominence when Leaf was there.

[LA Ute]

Guys, knock it off and stop pretending to know the exact dates that Oregon and OSU joined the PAC or what years the PAC changed its name.

Oregon and OSU are considered founding members and have always been considered founding members. They consider themselves charter members. LA Ute is correct in that the AZ schools enjoy Least Favored Nation status within the conference, for whatever the reason. Again, I do think the Zoo never playing in a Rose Bowl plays a part in that. Even Wazzou enjoyed some relatively recent prominence when Leaf was there.

OK, you shamed me into looking it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific...ence#Pacific-8

I was right about the dates but got the pre-1968 name of the conference wrong. It was the Athletic Association of Western Universities. PAC-whatever sounds much better.

[Mormon Red Death]

The pac-20??

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/college...-could-it-get/

[Blueintheface]

The pac-20??

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/college...-could-it-get/

Rice & TCU? Nice musings I guess. Everything is on the table at this point I suppose.

[Mormon Red Death]

Expansion never made its way west as the Pac-12 decided its current format best serves the conference.

"It wasn't nearly s close as the media painted it out to be," Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott told KJR 950 AM. "If you paid attention to where the media reports where coming from that it was imminent, it was all out of Texas."

Interesting tidbits.

[OrangeUte]

Interesting tidbits.

Is there a link?

[LA Ute]

Is there a link?

Audio is here.

[Scorcho]

have to admit, its been entertaining watching Y Fans cringe and grip with every tweet and news article coming out of Big 12 Territory.

Not saying, I'd be any different (if Utah were on the outside looking in), but it's fun to witness from the safety of Utah's PAC-12 porch.

[LA Ute]

have to admit, its been entertaining watching Y Fans cringe and grip with every tweet and news article coming out of Big 12 Territory.

Not saying, I'd be any different (if Utah were on the outside looking in), but it's fun to witness from the safety of Utah's PAC-12 porch.

We were doing that same thing last year. Fortunately our Cougar brethren were here for us and helped us through.

[myboynoah]

We were doing that same thing last year. Fortunately our Cougar brethren were here for us and helped us through.

No need to mentions names.

Your welcome.

[LA Ute]

No need to mentions names.

Your welcome.

Frankly, you were horrible. With each passing day I forgive you a little more. But only a little.

[myboynoah]

Frankly, you were horrible. With each passing day I forgive you a little more. But only a little.

Review this thread. When the tide turned, it was me who provided reports giving Utah Fans hope again. I was kind of like a John the Baptist to you all.