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Originally posted by Copelius View Post
Of course you don't."The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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One of the big problems with trying to dismiss ideas is that many people are more concerned with who is speaking rather than considering the ideas and thoughts being expressed. It is an easy way to dismiss ideas if we can apply offensive labels to those expressing them including dismissing the media.
Labeling groups of people left or right, or more extreme like socialist, fascist, or even terrorist doesn’t help the conversation much. If the idea is really so extreme, it can easily be dismissed without label the group or person.
This is why I’m less concerned about a media bias than I am about the events or ideas being shared.
I do think the media is generally going to lean left mostly because they are based out of major metropolitan areas and the concerns in those areas are more related to liberal concerns.
When you are packed together in a close area, your concerns are more about the government solving your problems and getting people to play nice together as opposed to more rural areas where you are more concerned with the government leaving you alone as they tend to just get in the way.
This is obviously an oversimplification of things but I think it generally is true.
Cue the people who want to call me a commie!
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Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
I also don't think the opinions of neo-Nazis should be afforded the same legitimacy in the media as those who are not neo-Nazis. But that's just me.
Have a little self respect for heavens sake.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by beefytee View PostOne of the big problems with trying to dismiss ideas is that many people are more concerned with who is speaking rather than considering the ideas and thoughts being expressed. It is an easy way to dismiss ideas if we can apply offensive labels to those expressing them including dismissing the media.
Labeling groups of people left or right, or more extreme like socialist, fascist, or even terrorist doesn’t help the conversation much. If the idea is really so extreme, it can easily be dismissed without label the group or person.
This is why I’m less concerned about a media bias than I am about the events or ideas being shared.
I do think the media is generally going to lean left mostly because they are based out of major metropolitan areas and the concerns in those areas are more related to liberal concerns.
When you are packed together in a close area, your concerns are more about the government solving your problems and getting people to play nice together as opposed to more rural areas where you are more concerned with the government leaving you alone as they tend to just get in the way.
This is obviously an oversimplification of things but I think it generally is true.
Cue the people who want to call me a commie!
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Originally posted by beefytee View PostOne of the big problems with trying to dismiss ideas is that many people are more concerned with who is speaking rather than considering the ideas and thoughts being expressed. It is an easy way to dismiss ideas if we can apply offensive labels to those expressing them including dismissing the media.
Labeling groups of people left or right, or more extreme like socialist, fascist, or even terrorist doesn’t help the conversation much. If the idea is really so extreme, it can easily be dismissed without label the group or person.
This is why I’m less concerned about a media bias than I am about the events or ideas being shared.
I do think the media is generally going to lean left mostly because they are based out of major metropolitan areas and the concerns in those areas are more related to liberal concerns.
When you are packed together in a close area, your concerns are more about the government solving your problems and getting people to play nice together as opposed to more rural areas where you are more concerned with the government leaving you alone as they tend to just get in the way.
This is obviously an oversimplification of things but I think it generally is true.
Cue the people who want to call me a commie!Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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You guys should read up on 19th century politics to calibrate your media bias meters."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
I also don't think the opinions of neo-Nazis should be afforded the same legitimacy in the media as those who are not neo-Nazis. But that's just me.
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by beefytee View Post
That's that standard, is it?
Just a general comment that media used to be far more biased and political than it is now. People used to buy or create newspapers for very specific political objectives - and make no secret about it. And they were vicious."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Just a general comment that media used to be far more biased and political than it is now. People used to buy or create newspapers for very specific political objectives - and make no secret about it. And they were vicious."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostYou guys should read up on 19th century politics to calibrate your media bias meters.
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