President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Commando]

The National party is 90% Trump. But that's beside the point here. Biden is corrupt, maybe this will shed some light to see if it's just run of the mill pre Trump corruption or if he was especially egregious. I suspect that it will further hurt the GOP politically to do this since they can't even do basic stuff without stepping all over themselves. Also, the man the GOP supports is more corrupt than Biden could possibly be. The population not in the GOP media silo won't be quite as duped as these politicians think they will.

And this is based on what evidence? Because from all the evidence available to my view, including public statements from GOP members of the House and Trump himself, this is part of an effort to 1. get revenge on Democrats for impeaching Trump and 2. muddy the waters so that it looks like 'hey no big deal -- EVERYONE gets impeached for no reason at all! It's actually cool that Trump got impeached and he did it twice!' They are doing the bidding of Trump and Trump only. Not their constituent's bidding, not America's bidding. Pretty cool that public servants who are getting paid and are bestowed an honorific they will carry for life are wasting our fucking time and shaming their office and our country. They were elected to pass laws to help America and this is what they're doing.

[Commando]

I honestly can't remember if I voted for a GOP candidate in the last election or even in 2020. If I did, they certainly weren't ones that endorsed Trump. On second thought, I probably voted for Gov Abbott, but that's because he was running against Beto "flip-flopping more than Romney" O' Rourke...but I can't honestly remember.

Ouch. I bet Beto wouldn't be the absolute most embarrassing, shameful governor in the U.S.-- 'flip flops' notwithstanding.

[USUC]

Oh right. Sorry.

There is most certainly shady/sleazy involvement in Hunter's schemes, and with enriching his family in general for years. It's already been shown that he has been untruthful in his denials of any involvement with Hunter. You can argue that a good chunk of career piticians act the sawm, but it is corruption none the less.

He is the poster politician of taking donations from lobbyists and and turning them into legislative favors. These donations alseem to disproportionately favor his family.

This isn't to say that Trump deserves a vote over Biden. But the GOP is attacking because there is some obvious misdealings that exist. Again, I don’t think this benefits the GOP as they are engaging in worse behavior.

[Maximus]

Ouch. I bet Beto wouldn't be the absolute most embarrassing, shameful governor in the U.S.-- 'flip flops' notwithstanding.

It is impossible to be worse than Abbott

[Northwestcoug]

There is most certainly shady/sleazy involvement in Hunter's schemes, and with enriching his family in general for years. It's already been shown that he has been untruthful in his denials of any involvement with Hunter. You can argue that a good chunk of career piticians act the sawm, but it is corruption none the less.

He is the poster politician of taking donations from lobbyists and and turning them into legislative favors. These donations alseem to disproportionately favor his family.

This isn't to say that Trump deserves a vote over Biden. But the GOP is attacking because there is some obvious misdealings that exist. Again, I don’t think this benefits the GOP as they are engaging in worse behavior.

No matter how sleazy his dealings have been, they happened while he was vice president. I don't understand how the GOP is selling the impeachment inquiry in the face of this one fact.

[USUC]

No matter how sleazy his dealings have been, they happened while he was vice president. I don't understand how the GOP is selling the impeachment inquiry in the face of this one fact.

They have been going on long before we was VP as well. Maybe the assumption is that it didn't stop when he became president and that they will find a smoking gun? This inquiry is being lead by some of the dumbest minds possible so I wouldn't bet on it.

[fusnik]

The National party is 90% Trump. But that's beside the point here. Biden is corrupt, maybe this will shed some light to see if it's just run of the mill pre Trump corruption or if he was especially egregious. I suspect that it will further hurt the GOP politically to do this since they can't even do basic stuff without stepping all over themselves. Also, the man the GOP supports is more corrupt than Biden could possibly be. The population not in the GOP media silo won't be quite as duped as these politicians think they will.

Yikes you actually are nutso.

[fusnik]

Yep. You are definitely part of the problem.

It’s the only option to save the GOP, IMO. I’m open to being persuaded to a different path, but the last 7 years have shown us that regardless of what he does the conservative movement will fall in line behind him.

The only power you have is if a chunk of conservatives as a block vote democrat and the party suffers major losses for 1 to 2 cycles. Losing in the short term is the only way you wrangle control back from the loons.

We need two strong political parties. The GOP is one election cycle from becoming full MAGA, that should scare all of us.

[fusnik]

They have been going on long before we was VP as well. Maybe the assumption is that it didn't stop when he became president and that they will find a smoking gun? This inquiry is being lead by some of the dumbest minds possible so I wouldn't bet on it.

The caricature your lot paint of the Biden is absolute bonkers…

Is he a senile 80 year old worth 10mm that had to cover a truck payment for his drug addict son or is he a non senile criminal mastermind that has amassed 100s of millions of familial net worth and has figured out how to hide all of that money from the investigatory members of the GOP?

[Moliere]

Ouch. I bet Beto wouldn't be the absolute most embarrassing, shameful governor in the U.S.-- 'flip flops' notwithstanding.

Don't count out Beto to wholly and fully disappoint you...unfortunately he always loses elections so he hasn't had the chance to be absolutely embarrassing.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Biden's brother seems pretty corrupt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bribery-probe/

Scruggs’s deal with James Biden highlights how President Biden’s brother has for decades benefited financially from his proximity to his powerful sibling, a relationship that is newly relevant today as congressional Republicans investigate whether President Biden assisted his family members’ business deals. During Joe Biden’s 36 years in the Senate, eight years as vice president and now three years as president, James Biden’s private business work — as a consultant for hire and behind-the-scenes political fixer — has often intersected with his brother’s public responsibilities.

And Hunter Biden is corrupt as hell. Did Joe directly benefit from his corruption? Maybe not, but he certainly stood by and allowed it to happen.

He is a million times less corrupt that Trump, but let's not kid ourselves here.

[Commando]

Don't count out Beto to wholly and fully disappoint you...unfortunately he always loses elections so he hasn't had the chance to be absolutely embarrassing.

There's a high bar in Texas, too. Until he instructs agents to throw babies in the Rio Grande, he's not likely to clear it anytime soon.

[old_gregg]

There is most certainly shady/sleazy involvement in Hunter's schemes, and with enriching his family in general for years. It's already been shown that he has been untruthful in his denials of any involvement with Hunter. You can argue that a good chunk of career piticians act the sawm, but it is corruption none the less.

He is the poster politician of taking donations from lobbyists and and turning them into legislative favors. These donations alseem to disproportionately favor his family.

This isn't to say that Trump deserves a vote over Biden. But the GOP is attacking because there is some obvious misdealings that exist. Again, I don’t think this benefits the GOP as they are engaging in worse behavior.

"certainly," "obvious," "poster politician" are awfully conclusory. impeachment inquiries based on a vague concept of "corruption" are bad, no matter who does it.

[Commando]

There is most certainly shady/sleazy involvement in Hunter's schemes, and with enriching his family in general for years. It's already been shown that he has been untruthful in his denials of any involvement with Hunter. You can argue that a good chunk of career piticians act the sawm, but it is corruption none the less.

He is the poster politician of taking donations from lobbyists and and turning them into legislative favors. These donations alseem to disproportionately favor his family.

This isn't to say that Trump deserves a vote over Biden. But the GOP is attacking because there is some obvious misdealings that exist. Again, I don’t think this benefits the GOP as they are engaging in worse behavior.

NO THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE DOING IT BECAUSE TRUMP HAS COMMANDED THEM TO DO SO.

[chrisrenrut]

Biden is corrupt?

He’s a politician. With any politician, it’s not a question of if they are are corrupt, by how much.

Biden is not corrupt enough to be described as high crimes and misdemeanors.