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  • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

    I don't like what ICE is doing, or how they are going about it. Likening their funding to military though makes sense if you look at what the current administration is using them for. They see the open border policy of Biden as an invasion of our country. Reports of upwards of 20 million people in the last 4 years (that number is highly debatable, more likely 10 million). So they see it is a response to protecting our national sovereignty.

    Do I agree with what they are doing? No. Do I agree that something has to be done? Yes. You can't let things go unchecked.

    What I would like to see is the two parties work together on removing illegal immigrants (whether they are violent or not). But one party sees them as a national security threat, and one party does not.

    The Dems should be flexible and support closed borders and removing folks that don't legally have a right to be here. They wont. The Republicans should be more open and transparent about what they are doing and with due process. They wont.

    So, here we are.
    Not a dem, but I just don't see the national security threat posed by undocumented immigrants coming to the U.S. to work for a better life. Kinda what America is all about. I don't believe there should be an "open border," but even Biden and most dems don't believe in that. I just don't know of any dem of national prominence that doesn't support a secured border. I too wish the two sides would get together
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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    • Very bad Trump.

      Rodrick Johnson, who lives in the building and is a U.S. citizen, said he heard “people dropping on the roof” before FBI agents kicked in his door. He was stuffed inside a van with his neighbors for what felt like several hours until agents told them the building was clear, he said.

      “They didn’t tell me why I was being detained,” Johnson said. “They left people’s doors open, firearms, money, whatever, right there in the open.”
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        Very bad Trump.



        No real objective to this other than a show of authoritarian power to scare people.

        Federal troops in US cities to scare and intimidate people is disgusting. And it's illegal, which is what the courts are saying also.

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        • Trump clearly wants violence.

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          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
            Trump clearly wants violence.
            Yep, more bad Trump.

            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                It's obviously staged and fake news right?

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                • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                  Narrator: "The photo was quickly forgotten."
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                    It's obviously staged and fake news right?
                    This stuff is going to serve as a pretext to interfere with elections.

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                    • The Civil-Military Crisis Is Here - The Atlantic

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                      • For anyone defending these military incursions into American cities (not saying anyone on this site is), Ben Franklin's famous quote might be good to remember:

                        "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty or Safety."

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                        • So at the end of Trump's first term, there was all this crazy planning that got scuttled by the more sane voices in his administration. He doesn't tolerate those voices and now he is proceeding with plans that people like Roger Stone and Michael Flynn came up with.

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                          • A Sept. 16 competitive lease proposal request from the U.S. General Services Administration asks property companies to apply to lease a fully furnished office space above ground level with 70 desks, a conference room, a storage room, a 24/7 server room and sound privacy for “confidential discussions.” It discourages any agencies or tenants that could have “security, operational or reputational conflicts” with federal law enforcement.
                            A GSA spokesperson did not disclose which federal law enforcement agency would be occupying the potential space, but the move is “focused on supporting this administration’s goal of optimizing the federal footprint,” and “providing the best workplaces for our federal agencies to meet their mission,” the spokesperson said.
                            The request for more federal law enforcement work space mirrors the Trump administration’s moves to increase the presence and operations of ICE, which is set to receive $76.5 billion to hire 10,000 more staff by the end of the year to meet its immigration deportation goal and enticing people with a $50,000 signing bonus, although not without government messaging from “Uncle Sam.”

                            “America has been invaded by criminals and predators,” ICE says on its website, with a photo of Uncle Sam pointing at the viewer. “We need YOU to get them out.”
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                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                                Unfortunately, the Supreme Court agrees with Bovino.

                                Wait, Bovino. That sounds like a foreign name. GET HIM!
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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