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I agree with that, but I don't think the Constitution forbids it like the tweet suggested.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Hence the slapped forehead. I am of the opinion that any investigation of the executive should be exclusively under the purview of the Congress as part of its impeachment powers. Its like Hamilton said in Federalist 70, paraphrasing: we need to know who to hold accountable for the execution of the laws. Also, if as Truman said, the buck really stops at the oval office, the occupant of said office should have plenary authority over everywhere that the buck starts. No part of the executive branch should not be 100% at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise, there is too much room for other agendas to enter into the various agencies. The same with any oversight appointment, which should fall under the legislative branch. And any part of that branch should be 100% at the pleasure of the legislature as a whole, meaning as the majority may change, so may the occupant of any position under the legislative branch. Likewise the Judicial Branch. I am not necessaily advocating for a spoils bureacracy such as Andrew Jackson instituted, but the executive should be allowed to appoint enough leadership to see that his agenda is faithfully pursued by all civil servants, the leadership of Congress should be able to appoint oversight that conforms with their interpretation of the how said oversight should be accomplished.Originally posted by falafel View Post
I agree with that, but I don't think the Constitution forbids it like the tweet suggested.
The constitution was general enough to allow for growth and development of the government but also specific enough to reign it in from abuses. However, as Adams saidI think the whale referred to is the uniparty donkey/elephant.While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues Sincere and incapable of insidious and impious Policy: We shall have the Strongest Reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the People of America, once become capable of that deep <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour frankness & sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this Country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because We have no Government armed with Power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by <, Start deletion,[. . .], End,> morality and Religion. Avarice, Ambition <, Start deletion,and, End,> Revenge or Galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.“Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman
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I view the President as the one who is most bound by the law, not the least. When a joint action by Congress and the President enacted federal employee job security and protections into law, he doesn't get to skirt them by claiming he's in charge. He's in charge of making sure the law is faithfully executed. All the laws, not just the ones he likes at any given time. Does that mean he's entitled to leadership that supports his vision? Sure. There are 1,300 political appointed positions that require Senate confirmation. He nominates his cabinet. He nominates the undersecretaries. He nominates his Presidential Physical Fitness committee.Originally posted by Copelius View Post
Hence the slapped forehead. I am of the opinion that any investigation of the executive should be exclusively under the purview of the Congress as part of its impeachment powers. Its like Hamilton said in Federalist 70, paraphrasing: we need to know who to hold accountable for the execution of the laws. Also, if as Truman said, the buck really stops at the oval office, the occupant of said office should have plenary authority over everywhere that the buck starts. No part of the executive branch should not be 100% at the pleasure of the president. Otherwise, there is too much room for other agendas to enter into the various agencies. The same with any oversight appointment, which should fall under the legislative branch. And any part of that branch should be 100% at the pleasure of the legislature as a whole, meaning as the majority may change, so may the occupant of any position under the legislative branch. Likewise the Judicial Branch. I am not necessaily advocating for a spoils bureacracy such as Andrew Jackson instituted, but the executive should be allowed to appoint enough leadership to see that his agenda is faithfully pursued by all civil servants, the leadership of Congress should be able to appoint oversight that conforms with their interpretation of the how said oversight should be accomplished.
The constitution was general enough to allow for growth and development of the government but also specific enough to reign it in from abuses. However, as Adams said
I think the whale referred to is the uniparty donkey/elephant.
But, by law, employees of the executive branch are entitled to some job security. He shouldn't be able to break that law just by claiming that they should serve at his pleasure, because they don't. They serve the public.
Fire the political appointees as you will. The career employees, the ones who do the work without regard for who is elected, should not be subject to the whims of a political toddler.
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So I differentiate between MAGA and conservatism. I strongly believe that you can be progressive or conservative and be a good, moral person. It just means you have different ideas or priorities about how to solve our social problems.
I don't love or agree with everything Reagan did, but don't share the disdain that a lot of uber progressive individuals I've interacted with in my life. I think he'd be horrified by Trump's bootlicking of Putin. This quote makes me miss statesmanship.
Trump is the first POTUS, who doesn't want to be President of all Americans. The umbrella of who is an enemy will keep expanding. This is the temperament we need regardless of party:
We shall reflect the compassion that is so much a part of your makeup. How can we love our country and not love our countrymen; and loving them, reach out a hand when they fall, heal them when they're sick, and provide opportunity to make them self-sufficient so they will be equal in fact and not just in theory?”
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I don't have a login to Cougarboard anymore, but this would be a good time to troll the political category.
I would post something like this --
The Constitution has outlived its usefulness. With the problems we have today it's time to ignore the supposed checks and balances and give our president the free hand to do whatever he needs to save the country. Dictator is a word that has a negative connotation, but essentially it's pretty much what we need.
Post this and I wonder how many over there would sincerely agree with it.
How many would be in a second group that is in denial that the power they assume or want Trump to have goes outside his Constitutional authority? Probably most would be here, but the first group is getting larger, I think.
Finally, how many sincerely believe Trump is actually saving the Constitution? I've heard this one before but have yet to hear a coherent explanation with specifics of how he is doing this without the person contradicting something in the Constitution.
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The Elon Musk circus hasn't exactly been helping Trump's approval rating. Look at the graph.
https://abcnews.go.com/538
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Still nowhere near Joe Biden territory, but I like the trend.Originally posted by BlueK View PostThe Elon Musk circus hasn't exactly been helping Trump's approval rating. Look at the graph.
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Outbreak of measles in West, Texas. Gaines County, Texas has 1 in 5 kindergarten students not vaccinated. Sadly, a child has now died from the measles.
https://apnews.com/article/measles-o...b2677480031ab9
If only we had strong leadership right now that was actively encouraging parents to get their kids vaccinated. Instead, we have RFK Jr out here telling people how no vaccine is safe and effective and lying that vaccines cause autism. Good to hear that RFK Jr is "watching" the outbreak and minimizing it as "not unusual."
Well, I guess the parents that lost their child can take solace in the fact that the child didn't have autism.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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For a while it was very unusual until crazy anti vax morons worked so hard to make outbreaks like this more common.Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View PostOutbreak of measles in West, Texas. Gaines County, Texas has 1 in 5 kindergarten students not vaccinated. Sadly, a child has now died from the measles.
https://apnews.com/article/measles-o...b2677480031ab9
If only we had strong leadership right now that was actively encouraging parents to get their kids vaccinated. Instead, we have RFK Jr out here telling people how no vaccine is safe and effective and lying that vaccines cause autism. Good to hear that RFK Jr is "watching" the outbreak and minimizing it as "not unusual."
Well, I guess the parents that lost their child can take solace in the fact that the child didn't have autism.
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