Ukraine - somebody explain to me

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  • Bo Diddley
    Senior
    • Jul 2012
    • 18720

    #2446
    Here's an interesting interview with a former Russian Army officer who saw torture and was able to get out of the Army and escape Russia.

    The former senior lieutenant tells the BBC he witnessed the mistreatment of prisoners.


    As we end our chat, Mr Yefremov says sorry to the people of Ukraine.

    "I apologise to the entire Ukrainian nation for coming to their home as an uninvited guest with a weapon in my hands.

    "Thank God I didn't hurt anyone. I didn't kill anyone. Thank God I wasn't killed.

    "I don't even have the moral right to ask for forgiveness from the Ukrainians. I can't forgive myself, so I can't expect them to forgive me."

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    • Bo Diddley
      Senior
      • Jul 2012
      • 18720

      #2447
      And Putin twisting the facts to his fit his perverse narrative:

      He likens Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the fight against Nazi Germany, 80 years after Stalingrad.


      Vladimir Putin has compared Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the fight against Nazi Germany, in a speech to mark the 80th anniversary of the conclusion of the Battle of Stalingrad.

      Citing Germany's decision to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine, he claimed history was repeating itself.

      "It's unbelievable but true," he said. "We are again being threatened by German Leopard tanks."

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      • USUC
        Chronic Poseur
        • Apr 2010
        • 8775

        #2448
        Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
        And Putin twisting the facts to his fit his perverse narrative:
        He likens Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the fight against Nazi Germany, 80 years after Stalingrad.

        I don't remember my history well, was Russia invading the sovereign country where Stalingrad was located? Were the Germans defending their homeland there Vlad?

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        • Paperback Writer
          Signature won a Pulitzer
          • Nov 2010
          • 5211

          #2449
          Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
          And Putin twisting the facts to his fit his perverse narrative:

          "It's unbelievable but true," he [Putin] said. "We are again being threatened by German Leopard tanks."
          Putin needs to get his German tank nomenclature correct. On the Eastern Front in WWII, Germans used Panther and Tiger tanks (along with Panzer IIIs and Panzer IVs) but what we know as Leopard tanks were not produced until 20 years after WWII.

          Here's a WWII Panther parked in my garage.

          IMG_0713.JPG
          “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
          "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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          • BigFatMeanie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 7094

            #2450
            Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
            Putin needs to get his German tank nomenclature correct. On the Eastern Front in WWII, Germans used Panther and Tiger tanks (along with Panzer IIIs and Panzer IVs) but what we know as Leopard tanks were not produced until 20 years after WWII.

            Here's a WWII Panther parked in my garage.

            IMG_0713.JPG
            You have a nice a garage; although it's shame those oil spills make it look a little more hillbilly.

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            • Bo Diddley
              Senior
              • Jul 2012
              • 18720

              #2451
              Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

              You have a nice a garage; although it's shame those oil spills make it look a little more hillbilly.
              Looks a little industrial. I always wanted to buy an old brick warehouse and turn it into a house with a big garage.

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              • Eddie
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 8098

                #2452
                Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                Putin needs to get his German tank nomenclature correct. On the Eastern Front in WWII, Germans used Panther and Tiger tanks (along with Panzer IIIs and Panzer IVs) but what we know as Leopard tanks were not produced until 20 years after WWII.

                Here's a WWII Panther parked in my garage.

                IMG_0713.JPG
                So...where do you live?

                Our stake is responsible to build a float for the Days of '47 Parade this year. Just last night the Stake President was asking me if I knew anyone with a garage large enough to put a float while they work on it. Yours looks like it could be PERFECT.

                In fact - if we can work out the right decorations - using that tank instead of an actual float might be a pretty cool option too. Think we could make it look more like a handcart or covered wagon somehow? Maybe do a float themed around German immigrants?

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18720

                  #2453
                  Originally posted by Eddie View Post

                  So...where do you live?

                  Our stake is responsible to build a float for the Days of '47 Parade this year. Just last night the Stake President was asking me if I knew anyone with a garage large enough to put a float while they work on it. Yours looks like it could be PERFECT.

                  In fact - if we can work out the right decorations - using that tank instead of an actual float might be a pretty cool option too. Think we could make it look more like a handcart or covered wagon somehow? Maybe do a float themed around German immigrants?
                  Yeah, I think his garage is in the Netherlands.

                  This Panzerkampfwagen V, Panther, Ausführung G, Sd.Kfz.171, was assigned to the 107th Panzer Brigade, formed in late July 1944. It&...

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                  • Paperback Writer
                    Signature won a Pulitzer
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5211

                    #2454
                    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                    Yeah, I think his garage is in the Netherlands.

                    https://www.oorlogsmuseum.nl/en/the-...n/panther-222/
                    Yeah, it's a Dutch museum that I visited last year. Highly recommend for anyone interested in WWII as it has many vehicles, a few planes, and a lot of uniformed mannequins. I've had an interest in WII militaria since I was a kid assembling models.
                    “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                    "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                    • Bo Diddley
                      Senior
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 18720

                      #2455
                      Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post

                      Yeah, it's a Dutch museum that I visited last year. Highly recommend for anyone interested in WWII as it has many vehicles, a few planes, and a lot of uniformed mannequins. I've had an interest in WII militaria since I was a kid assembling models.
                      Have you visited the one in New Orleans? I highly recommend it.

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                      • BigPiney
                        Huge Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12322

                        #2456
                        https://www.cougarboard.com/board/me...ml?id=30343639

                        Donuthole, LiveCoug, smr and others make an appearance.

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                        • BigFatMeanie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7094

                          #2457
                          I don’t know who TNT is but to surpass IndyCougs 10 year head start is disturbing.

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #2458
                            Originally posted by BigPiney View Post
                            https://www.cougarboard.com/board/me...ml?id=30343639

                            Donuthole, LiveCoug, smr and others make an appearance.
                            IndyCoug is still alive?
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                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • myboynoah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 21719

                              #2459
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69491

                                #2460
                                Well, this is interesting. Not too surprising though.

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