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  • frank ryan
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    Now this some weird shit, the CIA director went on a secret trip to Moscow. There has been a lot of chatter about Russia attacking a NATO country and using that as rationale for a massive mobilization.

    Maybe it has something to do with Iran.





    CIA Director John Ratcliffe traveled to Moscow overnight to meet with Russian officials, a US official familiar with his travel told CNN.

    The official declined to share the substance of the meetings or the topics set to be discussed.

    The CIA declined to comment.

    The US asked Ukraine to halt drone and missile strikes in Moscow and other cities in the north of Russia ahead of Ratcliffe’s trip, a person familiar with the matter said. The request was for Monday through Wednesday of this week. The Ukrainians were told a senior US official would be traveling in Russia.

    The visit is Ratcliffe’s first known trip to Russia as CIA director under President Donald Trump. It comes as negotiations to end the war between Russia and Ukraine have stalled.

    It also comes one day after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced “Operation Economic Outcast” — a new strategy designed to isolate Iran from the rest of the world by punishing countries and entities that continue to do business with Tehran. Russia is a strategic trading partner with Iran.

    Early Tuesday morning, a military transport aircraft — an American Boeing C-17 Globemaster III — landed at Moscow’s Vnukovo International Airport, according to flight tracking website Flightradar24. It appeared the flight had initially taken off from Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

    A spokesperson for Latvia’s Defense Ministry said the flight — which left from Riga, the Latvian capital — was “properly coordinated and authorized for operation within the airspace.”

    “Since the aircraft is not operated by the National Armed Forces of Latvia, we are unable to provide any further information concerning this particular flight,” the spokesperson told CNN.

    CBS News was first to report on Ratcliffe’s presence in Russia.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

    Why is this In Ukraine’s thread. lol

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  • dabrockster
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Trump calls off his absurd 20% Strait of Hormuz fee.

    TACO Tuesday!
    Why is this In Ukraine’s thread. lol

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  • PaloAltoCougar
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Trump calls off his absurd 20% Strait of Hormuz fee.

    TACO Tuesday!
    Probably after learning that it would be a very serious violation of international maritime law. Trump loves announcing big deals and moneymaking schemes, shooting from the hip, and demonstrating yet again why he was the dumbest student at Wharton.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Trump calls off his absurd 20% Strait of Hormuz fee.

    TACO Tuesday!

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  • frank ryan
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    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
    I’d say it’s more like WWI than WWII, but regardless the whole thing is absurd.
    Is that cause of the bloody fighting that sometimes is over inches of territory?

    That's an interesting point. Drone warfare is changing everything.

    Now that Ukraine is striking inside of Russia the conflict has changed. One of my criticisms of Biden has how long he took to arm Ukraine and the gatekeeping of longer range weapons. I wonder if things would differently if they had done that sooner

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  • Moliere
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    I’d say it’s more like WWI than WWII, but regardless the whole thing is absurd.

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  • Bo Diddley
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    Ha. I am highlighting the absurdity of Putin's war.

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

    Oh absolutely. And not a world war. Lots of other differences. I just found it interesting that it was in subset of the front and Russia is throwing bodies into the meat grinder again.

    Wordsmith that for me, would you? TIA
    Ha. I am highlighting the absurdity of Putin's war.

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  • Maximus
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    Graham goes to Ukraine and dies suddenly

    Russia bombed the place her went

    Hmm

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  • Bo Diddley
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

    The area of land under contention is vastly different.
    Oh absolutely. And not a world war. Lots of other differences. I just found it interesting that it was in subset of the front and Russia is throwing bodies into the meat grinder again.

    Wordsmith that for me, would you? TIA

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  • Jeff Lebowski
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    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

    It's the Eastern Front all over again. Same cities and geography, but this time the aggressors are moving from east to west.
    The area of land under contention is vastly different.

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  • Bo Diddley
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    It's the Eastern Front all over again. Same cities and geography, but this time the aggressors are moving from east to west.

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  • Moliere
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    Ukraine’s Drones Are Now Reaching Siberia and Imperiling Russian Energy Assets - WSJ

    Ukrainian drones used in this operation have a maximum range of 2,100 miles, according to the manufacturer, Fire Point. This means that a vast additional swath of Russia, including the core of its oil-and-gas industry in western Siberia, and hundreds of key military installations, will also need to be protected from Ukrainian air raids—when Russia’s air defenses are already stretched thin by Kyiv’s relentless drone and missile campaign.


    Pretty brilliant strategy so far. Instead of having to defend a couple hundred miles of front, Russia now has to defend pretty much everything within a 2,100 mile radius. Ukraine is launching a couple hundred drones a day and while they can't do a ton of damage if they have to fly 2,100 miles they are having an impact.

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