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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2026


    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • wuapinmon
      Soul Plumber
      • Dec 2008
      • 30711

      #2027
      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #2028
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • wuapinmon
          Soul Plumber
          • Dec 2008
          • 30711

          #2029
          После мариупольской операции мы посчитали, что большую часть потерь мы понесли от дружественного огня. Кто-то даже называл цифру - шестьдесят процентов. Это рядовое явление, но распространение его зависит, конечно, от компетенции командиров - особенно артиллеристов. Выполняем задачу, как вдруг из тыла на головы начали сыпаться мины. Кто? Откуда? Поднимаем коптер, находим миномётную батарею, мчимся туда... - Кто такие, парни!? - Минбат такого-то полка из России. - Почему по нам лупите? - Мы не по вам - по точке на карте. Нам задачу нарисовали - мы её выполняем. - Так вас же никто не корректирует, стреляете по карте по старинке... - Ну, вот так... Мы потом от них не отходили - сами корректировали, загрузили им в смартфоны программы, научили пользоваться... И такого столько было... Движемся по промзоне, занимаем здания, ночью держим - утром ротируем другими группами, чтобы парни могли отдохнуть. Начинаем ротировать - а на маршруте мины... Откуда? Какой-то армейский генерал дал команду своим инженерам обминировать…


          Telegram channel claiming to be that of Pro-Russian Vostok battalion commander Aleksandr Khodakovsky. That post, translated, says:

          (My emphasis and colorization)
          After the Mariupol operation, we considered that we suffered most of the losses from friendly fire. Someone even called the figure - sixty percent. This is an ordinary phenomenon, but its spread depends, of course, on the competence of commanders - especially artillerymen.

          We are completing the task, when suddenly mines began to fall on our heads from the rear. Who? Where? Raise the copter, find a mortar battery, rush there...
          - Who are these guys!?
          - The Ministry of Battalion of such and such a regiment from Russia.
          - Why are you hitting on us?
          - We are not for you - for a point on the map. We've been assigned a task, and we're doing it.
          - So no one corrects you, you shoot at the map the old fashioned way ...
          - Well, so...
          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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          • Bo Diddley
            Senior
            • Jul 2012
            • 18823

            #2030
            Haha. I think something is lost in translation here.

            Why are you hitting on us?

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            • Copelius
              Maker of eyeballs
              • Dec 2012
              • 4076

              #2031
              I don't know much about the current Russian artillery order of battle (my time as an artillery S2 was over 20 years ago), but that battalion commander needs to check his own people, who are likely giving the points on the map to the artillery guns. Bad data from the forward troops leads to bad targeting by the guns.
              Last edited by Copelius; 11-05-2022, 11:08 AM.
              “Every player dreams of being a Yankee, and if they don’t it’s because they never got the chance.” Aroldis Chapman

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              • wuapinmon
                Soul Plumber
                • Dec 2008
                • 30711

                #2032
                This is the kind of thing that demonstrates their will to fight.
                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • wuapinmon
                  Soul Plumber
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 30711

                  #2033
                  Originally posted by Copelius View Post
                  I don't know much about the Russian artillery order of battle, but that battalion commander needs to check his own people, who are likely giving the points on the map to the artillery guns. Bad data from the forward troops leads to bad targeting by the guns.
                  I don't know the intimate details of how command works, but lots of people have noted the dearth of non-commissioned officers in the Russia Army, and how troops are unable to make decisions in the field because their officers are usually not with them, but give them a command and either go elsewhere or go in a command vehicle or Lt. Dyke it back to HQ.

                  Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                  Haha. I think something is lost in translation here.
                  Well, there are more than a few drone videos of Russian soldiers copulating with one another or with livestock, so maybe both?
                  "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                  The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                  • wuapinmon
                    Soul Plumber
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 30711

                    #2034
                    Russia is really trying to hit infrastructure hard tonight. Look at all of those Air Raid warnings and Air Defense blue icons. Let's hope that the air defense works with absolute efficiency. Their electrical grid is hurting. Their rail system has also been targeted lately, prompting Zelensky to praise the railroad workers in one of his nightly addresses.

                    Air raids Ukraine 11-5-22.JPG
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #2035
                      Is my curating still interesting to everyone? I sometimes wonder if I post too often, or if what's interesting to me is interesting in general. Give me some feedback, if yall would.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • Jeff Lebowski
                        Corporate lackey for Jesus
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 69758

                        #2036
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        Is my curating still interesting to everyone? I sometimes wonder if I post too often, or if what's interesting to me is interesting in general. Give me some feedback, if yall would.
                        yes! keep it up.
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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #2037
                          (Sort of NSFW due to a disguised sex toy) Ukrainian channels are having a field day with this Russian going around with a bow and arrow: https://t.me/operativnoZSU/53950

                          The "anal plug" fox tail is making the rounds.

                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Bo Diddley
                            Senior
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 18823

                            #2038
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            Is my curating still interesting to everyone? I sometimes wonder if I post too often, or if what's interesting to me is interesting in general. Give me some feedback, if yall would.
                            I like it, but then I've been devouring info from the war from the beginning. Don't feel obligated though if it's cumbersome. I feel a little lazy leeching off you. I do skip anything with gore, and probably most with active violence.

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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #2039
                              Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                              I like it, but then I've been devouring info from the war from the beginning. Don't feel obligated though if it's cumbersome. I feel a little lazy leeching off you. I do skip anything with gore, and probably most with active violence.
                              I've been devouring stuff since late January. As I'm "retired" now, I've got time, and my back's as crooked as Mitch McConnell, so the sedentary life suits me, and I'm fascinated with the inspiring leadership of Zelensky in the face of naked aggression and genocide.

                              I am starting physical therapy on Friday, so we'll see how it goes. I want to get back in the pool after a five-year absence. For the physicians and bodily-injury attorneys, here's what I'm facing. back pain physical therapy.JPG
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • wuapinmon
                                Soul Plumber
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 30711

                                #2040
                                Does anyone know what this dish is called? It looks like some kind of split barley, maybe. I'd like to try and make it for my Ukrainian student and his family:

                                Смачної вечері усім? https://t.me/operativnoZSU
                                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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