Ukraine - somebody explain to me

[wuapinmon]

My buddy Kyryll near Dnipro saved a life last week with a tourniquet that we helped him buy. A missile hit his neighbor across the street, and he was able to use the tourniquets to stanch the flow of blood from an unlucky passerby when the missile hit.

[Bo Diddley]

I just watched a BBC story from Ukraine. Young kids are receiving weapons training. It's surreal when you see a 12 year old girl practicing drawing a pistol. She dropped out of the theater club to take the weapons training.

[frank ryan]

This is fascinating. Ukraine is apparently supporting Sudan's govt in their civil war to complicate things for Russia/Wagner

[YOhio]

This seems like a big deal.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

This seems like a big deal.

Oh boy. Elon Musk is going to be pissed!

[YOhio]

Oh boy. Elon Musk is going to be pissed!

I'm not sure what you mean by this response, but it does seem like a pretty big step in moving from a proxy war to direct hot conflict with a nuclear nation. Am I misunderstanding what this would mean?

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not sure what you mean by this response, but it does seem like a pretty big step in moving from a proxy war to direct hot conflict with a nuclear nation. Am I misunderstanding what this would mean?

Elon seems to be against anything that benefits Ukraine and sometimes sounds like a Putin shill.

And.... right on cue:

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[Jeff Lebowski]

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[falafel]

I'm not sure what you mean by this response, but it does seem like a pretty big step in moving from a proxy war to direct hot conflict with a nuclear nation. Am I misunderstanding what this would mean?

Are you suggesting or thinking that NATO could admit Ukraine in the middle of this war? I haven't heard anything like that.

[YOhio]

Are you suggesting or thinking that NATO could admit Ukraine in the middle of this war? I haven't heard anything like that.

That's what it seemed like Blinken was saying, but I could have misinterpreted.

[Commando]

I think Elon's kind of been exposed with Tesla and Twitter in the shitter and him being laughably wrong and proven wrong at every turn lately. Why does anyone still care what that incel has to say? Oh right- his money.

[Bo Diddley]

It seems unlikely to me that Ukraine could join NATO until after the war is over. Russia will make membership for Ukraine a deal breaker for any official peace settlement. Because of that, I don't think there will be any lasting peace moving forward. Even if the scale of the war ever diminishes, Russia will stay engaged, even if on a small scale so that a Ukraine NATO membership would be too high an escalation with a nuclear power.

But why are we dragging our feet on sending military aid to Ukraine? The degradation of Russia's military assets alone is worth the investment. It's pennies on the dollar.

[Jeff Lebowski]

It seems unlikely to me that Ukraine could join NATO until after the war is over. Russia will make membership for Ukraine a deal breaker for any official peace settlement. Because of that, I don't think there will be any lasting peace moving forward. Even if the scale of the war ever diminishes, Russia will stay engaged, even if on a small scale so that a Ukraine NATO membership would be too high an escalation with a nuclear power.

But why are we dragging our feet on sending military aid to Ukraine? The degradation of Russia's military assets alone is worth the investment. It's pennies on the dollar.

Because republicans are idiots.

[Bo Diddley]

Because republicans are idiots.

I don't buy it. My best guess is Congress has intelligence estimates that lead them to think they have time to play political chicken.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't buy it. My best guess is Congress has intelligence estimates that lead them to think they have time to play political chicken.

And so all the Republican opposition is just some sort of psyops? That’s funny.