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  • Green Monstah
    Royal Rooter
    • Aug 2010
    • 13934

    #886
    I think it's the correct decision on many levels.
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    • The_Douger
      Athletic Supporter
      • Jun 2012
      • 5413

      #887
      I don't.
      Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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      • Eddie
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 8098

        #888
        Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
        Teachers like to impose ridiculous rules on students, no? CJ's story was a great example of a teacher producing a power struggle and confrontation for no reason.

        I mean in real life outside of school (like at my job) people stay on their phones inappropriately, wear ridiculous clothes, swear, eat and drink at weird times, chew gum, etc. I don't ever try to control people's behavior in these situations -- I just ignore it and do my job. If the teacher and her lesson were more interesting the kid would have put her phone away willingly maybe, right?
        I had a conversation with my wife once along these lines.

        If we (as adults) aren't always happy with decisions made that effect us and get to cry or yell or pout sometimes, then how can we expect kids - who haven't had near the time that we have to practice - to manage and control emotions better than we do as adults?

        I do think that everyone needs to learn to respond appropriately to authority figures. I also think that there is a safe time and place to exhibit those emotions, and a not so safe time and place. Learning to tell the difference is one of those lessons you need to learn early.

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        • cougjunkie
          *Banned*
          • Nov 2008
          • 23223

          #889
          So hundreds of students walked out of the school today in protest of the cop being fired. They all chanted "Free Fields" the name of the police officer. Including students who were in the classroom at the time of the incident.

          They obviously didn't see anything wrong with it, but dipshits like Wuap do so let's fire this guy.
          *Banned*

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          • Bo Diddley
            Senior
            • Jul 2012
            • 18764

            #890
            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
            So hundreds of students walked out of the school today in protest of the cop being fired. They all chanted "Free Fields" the name of the police officer. Including students who were in the classroom at the time of the incident.

            They obviously didn't see anything wrong with it, but dipshits like Wuap do so let's fire this guy.
            That doesn't move the needle for me. Too much potential bias due to either their personal relationships with the officer and/or the student who was taken down.

            Am I misreading this, or are socially liberal people more pessimistic towards law enforcement, and socially conservative more supportive of law enforcement? Conservatives are generally anti governmental control while liberals want more governmental control.

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            • cougjunkie
              *Banned*
              • Nov 2008
              • 23223

              #891



              They should shut off all the lights and wait until these kids have to use the bathroom, and then call their parents.
              *Banned*

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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #892
                yikes. that is horrible. since they are children what sort of physical force would be appropriate here? if you read the comments, seems like every single adult is fine with giving those kids a beat down.
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                • Topper
                  Pre-Historic Man
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11764

                  #893
                  Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                  That doesn't move the needle for me. Too much potential bias due to either their personal relationships with the officer and/or the student who was taken down.

                  Am I misreading this, or are socially liberal people more pessimistic towards law enforcement, and socially conservative more supportive of law enforcement? Conservatives are generally anti governmental control while liberals want more governmental control.
                  I believe you may be reading it wrongly.

                  The breakdown on supporting police is broken down along cultural lines, more often than political viewpoints though they may intersect from time to time. For example, certain ethnic groups may be more likely to view police action with suspicion. However, those groups may tend to be more liberal or perhaps statist.

                  Using my own family, my wife is more progressive and statist, tending to be more supportive of police action, whereas I am more libertarian and tend to be more suspicious of such action than she.

                  Social conservatives that trust authority such LDS may be more supportive of police action, but I don't see an inherent distrust of police by liberals per se.
                  "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                  Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                  • Topper
                    Pre-Historic Man
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11764

                    #894
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    https://www.facebook.com/kayel.ellis...6094308525567/


                    They should shut off all the lights and wait until these kids have to use the bathroom, and then call their parents.
                    That is amazing. I would not make a very good high school teacher as I don't possess the patience necessary.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • old_gregg
                      scaly man fish
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 16915

                      #895
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      yikes. that is horrible. since they are children what sort of physical force would be appropriate here? if you read the comments, seems like every single adult is fine with giving those kids a beat down.
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                      • Bo Diddley
                        Senior
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 18764

                        #896
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        I believe you may be reading it wrongly.

                        The breakdown on supporting police is broken down along cultural lines, more often than political viewpoints though they may intersect from time to time. For example, certain ethnic groups may be more likely to view police action with suspicion. However, those groups may tend to be more liberal or perhaps statist.

                        Using my own family, my wife is more progressive and statist, tending to be more supportive of police action, whereas I am more libertarian and tend to be more suspicious of such action than she.

                        Social conservatives that trust authority such LDS may be more supportive of police action, but I don't see an inherent distrust of police by liberals per se.
                        I don't know. The distrust of police seems to be much bigger than ethnic groups or libertarians. The liberal media has lined up with them.

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                        • The_Douger
                          Athletic Supporter
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 5413

                          #897
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          yikes. that is horrible. since they are children what sort of physical force would be appropriate here? if you read the comments, seems like every single adult is fine with giving those kids a beat down.
                          Those are children. We cannot brutalize them.
                          Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                          • Surfah
                            Where's Wallace?
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 33726

                            #898
                            Same high school.

                            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                            -Turtle
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                            • wuapinmon
                              Soul Plumber
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 30711

                              #899
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              So I guess the school cop has been fired. Congrats wuap. You were part of yet another social media lynch mob that destroyed someone's career.
                              I said precisely zero words about this on any kind of social media. I came here to talk about it precisely because I knew it wouldn't be part of some lynch mob. I still believe that the treatment was brutality, but I don't wish to revisit the topic beyond defending myself against your disappointing accusation.
                              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69583

                                #900
                                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                                I said precisely zero words about this on any kind of social media. I came here to talk about it precisely because I knew it wouldn't be part of some lynch mob. I still believe that the treatment was brutality, but I don't wish to revisit the topic beyond defending myself against your disappointing accusation.
                                WTH? Public message boards are a form of social media. By any definition.

                                The police brutality outrage movement is a classic form of modern public shaming. And let's be honest, it is nothing more than good old-fashioned mob justice. And as was the case with the old-timey pitchfork and torch crowds, sometimes the target is guilty and sometimes the target is innocent.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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