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  • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    what do you predict will happen when this all boils over? Targeted assassination of law enforcement officers across the nation or a full-fledged Manson-style global race war?
    Neither. What will happen is what always happens -- more riots. The 60's were marked with race riot after race riot. I think the next wave of riots will be a backlash against police abuse. And like many riots, some good will come of it.
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    • Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
      Neither. What will happen is what always happens -- more riots. The 60's were marked with race riot after race riot. I think the next wave of riots will be a backlash against police abuse. And like many riots, some good will come of it.
      This is easy to say when you don't live in the potential blast zone.

      And I don't think riots are ever a net positive. Protests, yes. Riots, no.

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      • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
        This is easy to say when you don't live in the potential blast zone.

        And I don't think riots are ever a net positive. Protests, yes. Riots, no.
        Make no mistake, I'm not an advocate of rioting, but taking a long view, a little revolution can often hasten reform.
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        • just an advocate of cop killing. got it.
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          • The riots in 60s Detroit sure worked out well. Watts is also pretty nice, I've heard.
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            • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              Despite the articles' description, that video is not newly-released; i watched it back when the incident first hit the news ( but was swallowed up by the Ferguson aftermath).
              MSNBC is never wrong.
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              • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                It's a fair question, and one you can never truly answer until you're faced with the situation. However, training helps. It helps to break the tunnel vision, control the fight or flight response, control emotions, and aids in more clearly identifying what constitutes a life threatening situation. I think there's a systemic training issue and/or mentality in law enforcement where officers are taught to use force excessively. Of course in their minds it's not excessive, but justified due to x, y, and z.
                I think this is the most important thing missing with these cops that go off the rails.

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                • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                  I think this is the most important thing missing with these cops that go off the rails.
                  Yep, you can certainly understand why that cop would be infuriated at a bunch of teenage kids mouthing off and refusing to follow orders (not that his orders make much sense -- telling some kids to sit down, other kids to leave I guess based on gender and race).

                  And yeah he's justifiably angry but it doesn't mean he can wrestle a 13-year old girl in a bikini to the ground -- just because she has a bad attitude.

                  I'm glad he had to resign. That was ridiculous. And yeah the other 11 cops were fine except they should have told their colleague to take a timeout and count to ten before it got to that point.

                  I like how people say that kids shouldn't run when the cops come -- but then that crazy cop's actions, eventually leading to him pulling his gun out -- show that the kids were probably doing the sensible thing by trying to get the hell out of there before things got out of hand.

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                  • I still would like to know more about that roll at the beginning. It was so awesome. Is that the same cop that resigned? If not, I'm trying to figure out why the rolling cop hasn't become an Internet meme or 15-minute celebrity.
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                    • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      I still would like to know more about that roll at the beginning. It was so awesome. Is that the same cop that resigned? If not, I'm trying to figure out why the rolling cop hasn't become an Internet meme or 15-minute celebrity.
                      Yes that's the guy who resigned! Agree that was a sweet move.

                      Dude was probably embarrassed about stumbling and so then took it out on the kids.

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                      • I wouldn't have been opposed to cuffing that off camera girl that kept proclaiming that she had free speech.
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                        • Originally posted by scottie View Post
                          That's probably the best outcome. The police chief quickly denounces the cop's actions, and he voluntarily (snicker) resigns. That does seem to help the department maintain credibility.
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                          • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            I still would like to know more about that roll at the beginning. It was so awesome. Is that the same cop that resigned? If not, I'm trying to figure out why the rolling cop hasn't become an Internet meme or 15-minute celebrity.
                            It has begun:
                            https://vine.co/v/eOqeXtL9Yxz/embed/simple
                            "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                            "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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                            • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                              I do have to hand it to him....after the trip, the execution of the roll is something to behold.

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                I don't think police brutality is something new. Everyone now, it seems, carries a camera so if a cop does something stupid it is going to be recorded. A few years back I witnessed a police take down that was pretty awesome. Shortly after whipping my phone out one of the cops came over and told me to put it away because all the dudes down on the ground were minors. I complied and kept my hands where the cops could see them.
                                What the hell does that have to do with anything? You were in a public space, correct? Minors have no more rights to privacy in a public space than adults do. Sounds fishy.
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