2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Uncle Ted]

Musk doing his level best to get a cabinet position in a Trump administration:

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Thanks to Musk relief is coming...

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[wally]

I think morality is part of where the abortion debate gets bogged down. I guess I'm ultimately not interested in debating whether or not it is a moral choice or not. It is a balancing of interests between the woman carrying the fetus and the unborn. Whose rights do we value more? If you say that a woman cannot abort a fetus for economic reasons, you believe the right of the unborn outweighs the right of the woman. I'm okay with someone making that argument. I disagree with it in the early stages of the pregnancy and don't disagree in later stages of the pregnancy.

Yes, we are going to be drawing arbitrary lines here. What is so different with 21 weeks than 20 weeks allowing a woman to have an abortion for economic purposes, well not really much is different. However, we need to draw a line, because the up to 9 months for any reason is insanity. I think restricting it in the first 16 weeks is insanity, because I think a woman's rights at that point absolutely outweigh the unborn. I think the 17-21 weeks is the gray area we can work in and find a compromise.

We also have to consider the practical application of any laws. If you give an exception for the likes of rape and incest in the early term of the pregnancy, you are either going to write the law so restrictive that it isn't a real exception or you are going to actually allow the exception to swallow everything up such that you are practically just allowing abortion for any reason in the early term. Also, if a woman was raped do we really want her to have to jump through hoops to get an abortion?

It is why we settle on something from 16-21 weeks for abortion for any reason. We restrict it after that cut off for health and safety of the mother or serious fetal defects/abnormalities.

But at the end of the day, Democrats are never going to fix this because they need it to get votes. It is just like how Republicans handle immigration. It is needed for their votes. Yeah, I'm cynical.

If there is "safety in numbers" regarding gestational term policies, then the vast majority of European nations limit elective abortion after 12-14 weeks. Scroll down to the table.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Europe

[YOhio]

I wonder if all this talk about gnawing on cats makes Clack feel uncomfortable.

[wally]

My favorite debate moment was when Kamala trashed Trump rally attendance, and that attendees leave early. When she said that, I was like: "Oh no she just didn't go there?!?!"

This was better in my opinion than the hard-hitting discussion on eating pets.

[Uncle Ted]

Where is the video of Trump being fact checked with videos from the internet archive?

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[falafel]

Trump may not need another debate... Reports are coming out that the debate was rigged by ABC and Harris:

Who cares, Trump won by a landslide. If it was rigged, it must have been rigged for TRUMP.

Now that I think about it, trying to bribe ABC to rig the debate in his favor is right in Trump's wheelhouse.

[frank ryan]

I wonder if all this talk about gnawing on cats makes Clack feel uncomfortable.

I don't know, but I bet RFK Jr is salivating and readying some ideas for when he gets to head up the FDA!

[Uncle Ted]

LOL... like knowing the debate questions beforehand and having the moderators debate for you wasn't enough.

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[frank ryan]

My favorite debate moment was when Kamala trashed Trump rally attendance, and that attendees leave early. When she said that, I was like: "Oh no she just didn't go there?!?!"

This was better in my opinion than the hard-hitting discussion on eating pets.

He didn't like being told he inherited 400 million from Fred, which he did.

[Moliere]

Why is it the Dems always have to cheat when it comes to debates?

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I mean, if they both didn’t know the questions at this point, I feel bad for both of them. It’s not like it’s a chemistry test…”what do you think we should do in Ukraine?” “What about your economic policy?” “What is your position on abortion?”

[Jeff Lebowski]

Anyone who believes anything posted by that Leading Report account is an idiot. Please shop sharing that crap.

[frank ryan]

Anyone who believes anything posted by that Leading Report account is an idiot. Please shop sharing that crap.

Anything Ted shares is pretty much sus.

[Uncle Ted]

Please walk us through a scenario where a late-term abortion of a healthy baby would be justified out of concern for the mother's health.

Let's put it this way: You would not allow a mother to kill her baby one week after it is born, out of concern for her mental health. That would be considered murder. Why would you allow it one week before it is born?

This goes to show how far left the Democratic party has gone... Not long ago they had the same view as Trump on abortion:

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[falafel]

This goes to show how far left the Democratic party has gone... Not long ago they had the same view as Trump on abortion:

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Trump has the same views on race relations as the Southern Democrats of the reconstruction.

[Uncle Ted]

Trump has the same views on race relations as the Southern Democrats of the reconstruction.

Wat? Back your sh*t up with links, Bro.