2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Maximus]

Biden will be forced out of the race because he will have no choice over the next few weeks. But it's an open question as to how long it will take because his family continues to give him awful advice. I'm no Joe Biden fan. I think he's a career lightweight with no real principles and has acted as a weathervane in the Democrat party, trying to parrot where he thinks the base is going (and usually doing a poor job at it). But his family (and it appears his wife) are the true villains in this saga. They pump him up and encourage him to run when a family who cares would have been pushing him to plan his exit 2 years ago.

Unless something drastic happens, and I guess anything is possible in the alternate reality we live in, Kamala will be soundly defeated by Trump. I still wish Trump would die. Biden too unless he is forced out as I think he will be.

How is he going to go from only God can get me to quit to quitting in weeks ? His actual advisors aren't in this camp

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[Shaka]

Seems real enough to me. And it must be not great if Trump says he both doesn’t know what it is, and at the same time disagrees with some of its “abysmal” tenets.

https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

I'm sure he was given a quick rundown by his staff. This is this election's Steele Dossier. I'm sure there will be a few others dog whistles to create anxiety prior to the election.

There are organizations on both the left and the right that have weird agendas that will never be implemented by their chosen candidate.

[Shaka]

How can it be a dog whistle if they are open about their intentions

Because most people have no idea what it is. They see it being thrown around on social media and immediately adopt without doing any research whatsover.

[frank ryan]

Shaka, I can appreciate you have some personal dislike of me, but I think the idea that you will likely be a 3x Trump voter informs the quality of your political insight. So I'm actually reassured that you don't have similar concerns.

[frank ryan]

Trump is a known liar, but he doesn’t seem to lie about policy positions very much. In fact, one reason I didn’t worry when he got elected in 2016 was that I also thought he wouldn’t do everything he said he’d do. Well, sure enough he was probably the most loyal to the crazy promises he made. I’m inclined to believe him that he’s not beholden to the 2025 Project.

That doesn’t mean his cabinet members won’t be beholden to it, but it’s not something that gives me much pause.

So Miller had a serious influence over Trump's immigration policies. He has even been thrown around as a possibility for AG. Those are just a few of the links. This is believable stuff. It's out in the open. Keep in mind Trump and his followers tried to overthrow the will of the people. He has zero interest in protecting democracy at the expense of seizing power.
He will be less restrained this time around.

[Shaka]

Shaka, I can appreciate you have some personal dislike of me, but I think the idea that you will likely be a 3x Trump voter informs the quality of your political insight. So I'm actually reassured that you don't have similar concerns.

I'm not sure dislike is the correct word. I think you like to virtue signal and that you have emotional reactions. You do not handle pushback very well.

I clearly stated why I voted for Trump. My primary reason was I new that whever was elected would get to reshape the Supreme Court. Many scoffed at this reasoning but the country didn't go to hell under Trump and anyone paying attention knows that the Roberts lead Supreme Court has been a major player in the last several years. In my view my vote paid off in a major way. Also Hilary is far more corrupt than Trump so there was no way I was going to vote for her.

Your quality political insights comment is hilarious to me. Not surprising though.

[Jeff Lebowski]

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[Uncle Ted]

How is he going to go from only God can get me to quit to quitting in weeks ? His actual advisors aren't in this camp

God. A.K.A, Jill Biden... and Hunter

Jill Biden, Hunter Biden Are ‘Dead Set’ On Not Letting Biden Quit: Report

First lady Jill Biden and convicted felon Hunter Biden are reportedly “dead set” on not letting President Joe Biden drop out from the 2024 presidential race.
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Jill Biden’s ex-husband, Bill Stevenson, slammed her in an interview over the weekend with the New York Post, saying that she has turned into “a completely different woman.”

Stevenson previously said that Jill’s relationship with Joe began as an affair that they had while he was still married to her.

“I just don’t understand why she is so adamant about defending him and keeping him in the race since it appears that he’s struggling,” Stevenson said. “It appears that he’s struggling with everybody these days.”

Top presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said earlier this year that Jill Biden was a power-hungry woman who is doing the opposite of what many first ladies have done: encouraged their husbands to not run for re-election.

“She likes power. She wants to stay. She wants some sense of revenge,” he said. “She teaches in Virginia Community College. This milieu around our building here, this is her home. And the idea of relinquishing it all after you’ve taken the slings and arrows of the last years of attacks, and at the last minute, just when you get all the delegates you’re going to say, I’m going to open it up to a bunch of people — it’s very childish when you read those kind of reports.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jill-biden-hunter-biden-are-dead-set-on-not-letting-biden-quit-report

[Shaka]

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Orange is a popular color for candidates this election.

[USUC]

How can it be a dog whistle if they are open about their intentions

"The crazies on my team don't represent my party but the crazies on their team 100% represent their party"

[frank ryan]

"The crazies on my team don't represent my party but the crazies on their team 100% represent their party"

This retort doesn't address his point about saying things out in the open not being a dog whistle. What counterpart on the democratic side is being ignored? What crazy think tank with serious historical power and relevance as well as the involvement of some Biden's inner circle are threatening violence?

These "crazies" are very much part of Trump-land

Your thoughts genuinely make me think but I feel like you come from a place where both parties being consistently the same kind of bad is central to your paradigm. I think in MAGA world that such a notion is not longer dependable.

[Uncle Ted]

Orange is a popular color for candidates this election.

Yes, there is no hope in saving Grandpa Joe in the minds of the Dems now…

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[Uncle Ted]

My nickname for Joe Biden is catching on...

ABC interview proves that Joe Biden is in complete senile denial

George Stephanopoulos, former Bill Clinton adviser and the ultimate Democratic insider, held an intervention masquerading as an interview Friday night.

Rather than ask tough questions about President Biden’s mental deficiencies and the message it sends to our allies and enemies, he begged in a dozen different ways:

Do you really think you can beat Donald Trump?

Are you fooling yourself about how sharp you are?

Please Grampa Joe, hand over the car keys!
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Stephanopoulos rightly pointed out that “exhaustion” was a weird excuse, considering he had more than a week of rest at Camp David (with 11 am work calls and afternoon naps).

[On his low approval rating...]
“I don’t believe that’s my approval rating. That’s not what our polls show,” Biden said.

Stephanopoulos was stunned, and with him every Democratic elite.

Really?

Denial, or senile?

Either way, Biden’s not fit for the office, and has entered that stubborn stage of grumpy old man that wants you all off his lawn.

“If the Lord Almighty said get out of the race, I’d get out of the race,” he said.

“The Lord Almighty’s not coming down.”

Maybe not, but the voters are going to come down hard in November.

Democrats don’t have a prayer.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/05/opinion/abc-interview-proves-that-joe-biden-is-in-complete-senile-denial/

[Jeff Lebowski]

Apparently, beating Trump is not as important as just doing the goodest job.

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[BigPiney]

He is like a dog. He's been told he is a good boy. Except he isn't. They need to take him to a farm in the country.