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  • Bo Diddley
    Senior
    • Jul 2012
    • 18847

    #2011
    I'm scratching my head over the criticism of Walz leaving the military to run for Congress. You ought to respect the desire for public service.

    In my battalion, a few people made the decision to retire before the start of the Iraq War. There's always someone else ready to step up and fill the vacancies as they come. That's the nature of the National Guard. We source the mission from within our ranks in the state. We also get a lot of soldiers transferring from state to state, or coming off active duty to continue as a part time soldier.

    My point is, there was no gaping hole to fill when he left. He didn't leave his unit hanging out to dry.

    Why did JD Vance leave the military? We were still at war. Was he too chicken to stay in and support the effort? What about anyone else not in the military pointing their finger at Walz? Why didn't they volunteer and step forward when we were at war?

    I don't fault JD Vance or anyone else for either not continuing or deciding they needed to join the military. There just seems to be some irony in the finger pointing is all I'm saying.

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    • LiveCoug
      LA Ute loves me
      • Nov 2008
      • 18489

      #2012
      Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
      I'm scratching my head over the criticism of Walz leaving the military to run for Congress. You ought to respect the desire for public service.
      Well, it's because he is a DESERTER! Unlike Donald Trump, who is a decorated veteran of 17 different wars.

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #2013
        Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
        I'm scratching my head over the criticism of Walz leaving the military to run for Congress. You ought to respect the desire for public service.

        In my battalion, a few people made the decision to retire before the start of the Iraq War. There's always someone else ready to step up and fill the vacancies as they come. That's the nature of the National Guard. We source the mission from within our ranks in the state. We also get a lot of soldiers transferring from state to state, or coming off active duty to continue as a part time soldier.

        My point is, there was no gaping hole to fill when he left. He didn't leave his unit hanging out to dry.

        Why did JD Vance leave the military? We were still at war. Was he too chicken to stay in and support the effort? What about anyone else not in the military pointing their finger at Walz? Why didn't they volunteer and step forward when we were at war?

        I don't fault JD Vance or anyone else for either not continuing or deciding they needed to join the military. There just seems to be some irony in the finger pointing is all I'm saying.
        But see Bo, you're a normal, reasonable person. And loyal to those who served.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • SteelBlue
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 8192

          #2014
          Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
          I'm scratching my head over the criticism of Walz leaving the military to run for Congress. You ought to respect the desire for public service.

          In my battalion, a few people made the decision to retire before the start of the Iraq War. There's always someone else ready to step up and fill the vacancies as they come. That's the nature of the National Guard. We source the mission from within our ranks in the state. We also get a lot of soldiers transferring from state to state, or coming off active duty to continue as a part time soldier.

          My point is, there was no gaping hole to fill when he left. He didn't leave his unit hanging out to dry.

          Why did JD Vance leave the military? We were still at war. Was he too chicken to stay in and support the effort? What about anyone else not in the military pointing their finger at Walz? Why didn't they volunteer and step forward when we were at war?

          I don't fault JD Vance or anyone else for either not continuing or deciding they needed to join the military. There just seems to be some irony in the finger pointing is all I'm saying.
          It's 100% performative.

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12445

            #2015
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

            Being a beloved high school teacher and coach for a team that won a state championship, volunteering to serve his country at age 17, serving honorably for 24 years, reaching the highest enlisted rank... all false? The most entertaining thing is seeing you make dumb statements about truth in the service of Donald Trump.
            Donald Trump has some experience being of influence to teenagers. He was in the miss pageant world and ran his own due to his passion for style. He would go back stage when underage girls were changing and ogle them. Such a great man.

            Also he has a history of great moral judgment. We know he was bffs with Epstein and Maxwell, but don't forget he loved Ted's favorite DC couple, the Clinton's. He even endorsed Hillary!


            “I think she will be,” he said on CNN’s “Situation Room.” “I know her she very well. She’s very talented. And she has a husband that I also like very much. I think she’s going to get the nomination rather easily.”

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #2016
              Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
              I'm scratching my head over the criticism of Walz leaving the military to run for Congress. You ought to respect the desire for public service.

              In my battalion, a few people made the decision to retire before the start of the Iraq War. There's always someone else ready to step up and fill the vacancies as they come. That's the nature of the National Guard. We source the mission from within our ranks in the state. We also get a lot of soldiers transferring from state to state, or coming off active duty to continue as a part time soldier.

              My point is, there was no gaping hole to fill when he left. He didn't leave his unit hanging out to dry.

              Why did JD Vance leave the military? We were still at war. Was he too chicken to stay in and support the effort? What about anyone else not in the military pointing their finger at Walz? Why didn't they volunteer and step forward when we were at war?

              I don't fault JD Vance or anyone else for either not continuing or deciding they needed to join the military. There just seems to be some irony in the finger pointing is all I'm saying.
              It’s not so much being a bad leader and retiring before his unit was deployed… but more about claiming he was deployed with the unit he let down:



              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Uncle Ted
                The Big 12 money shot.
                • Apr 2010
                • 28853

                #2017
                Why is the Biden admin being a bunch of freak’n commies…



                The so called patriot act needs to be repealed when those in power are using it as a political tool against their enemies.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18847

                  #2018
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                  It’s not so much being a bad leader and retiring before his unit was deployed… but more about claiming he was deployed with the unit he let down:


                  You'll note the poster board references Operation Enduring Freedom, which was the operation his deployment to Europe supported. When was that picture snapped? 2004? Isn't that before his unit later deployed to Iraq?

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853

                    #2019
                    Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                    You'll note the poster board references Operation Enduring Freedom, which was the operation his deployment to Europe supported. When was that picture snapped? 2004? Isn't that before his unit later deployed to Iraq?
                    maybe it was this one…



                    Of course, he may have “misspoke”

                    there are lots of videos where he is referred to as a combat vet but he never bothers to correct them

                    eg,

                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Bo Diddley
                      Senior
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 18847

                      #2020
                      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                      maybe it was this one…



                      Of course, he may have “misspoke”

                      there are lots of videos where he is referred to as a combat vet but he never bothers to correct them

                      eg,

                      In the first clip he never said he served in Afghanistan. And I'm the second clip, Peloso didn't actually thank him"for his service on the battlefield". But yes, he should have been more clear and forthcoming as he spoke. Still, the clips also don't show the full context which could mitigate any concerns I might have right now wrt what he said.

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                      • Jeff Lebowski
                        Corporate lackey for Jesus
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 69811

                        #2021
                        Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                        In the first clip he never said he served in Afghanistan. And I'm the second clip, Peloso didn't actually thank him"for his service on the battlefield". But yes, he should have been more clear and forthcoming as he spoke. Still, the clips also don't show the full context which could mitigate any concerns I might have right now wrt what he said.
                        It’s like wack-a-mole with these BS allegations. MAGA just looks petty and desperate with this stuff.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Northwestcoug
                          Cocked and Loaded
                          • May 2011
                          • 18075

                          #2022
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                          maybe it was this one…



                          Of course, he may have “misspoke”

                          there are lots of videos where he is referred to as a combat vet but he never bothers to correct them

                          eg,

                          you’ll be shocked to know that Walz doesn’t use the word ‘Afghanistan’ once in that first video.

                          did Walz play fast and loose with the details of his service? Maybe? The fact remains he served for 2 decades. I can’t judge how his service compares to active deployment, but it does count for something.

                          I’m sure Ted will find another video that will be conclusive next time.

                          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                          - SeattleUte

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                          • SteelBlue
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 8192

                            #2023
                            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post


                            I’m sure Ted will find another video that will be conclusive next time.
                            Has Ted ever watched a video he's posted?

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                            • Bo Diddley
                              Senior
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 18847

                              #2024
                              Walz was an unknown to me until recently. He's a talker and likes to tell stories. As a politician, he's using his military service where he can to further his agenda. There are times he says things that are technically correct but can mislead the layman.

                              I'm sure he has ruffled some feathers of other vets, but his transgressions are common enough for most to simply ignore.

                              I've served with people who were much worse.

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #2025
                                Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                                Walz was an unknown to me until recently. He's a talker and likes to tell stories. As a politician, he's using his military service where he can to further his agenda. There are times he says things that are technically correct but can mislead the layman.

                                I'm sure he has ruffled some feathers of other vets, but his transgressions are common enough for most to simply ignore.

                                I've served with people who were much worse.
                                would you call any of them dad?

                                and what about his rank?



                                if he retired did he still get to keep his rank even if he didn’t serve the required period?
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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