Tithing

[Jeff Lebowski]

1. I didn't sign up this year. He asked if we would come on either Tuesday the 10th or Thursday the 12 of December.

2. It never takes me longer than 10 minutes.

But that was a good effort, TD!

You are a lucky man. I doubt I have been able to complete the whole process in ten minutes in my entire life.

[ERCougar]

Comments in another thread brought a question to mind that makes me wonder how others feel.

Let's say at Christmas you give each of your kids $10,000 (I use that figure because $100 is like a normal present). Although done at Christmas it isn't like it is done every Christmas.

Should the kids pay tithing on it? If my kids asked, I would say no, I already paid on it. It is after tithing funds.

I realize in the strictest terms it is an "increase" to them, but if that is the case should I deduct it from my years increase?

If tithing is a spiritual practice, ie for the good of the giver, then who cares if others have paid tithing on your increase? You didn't.

And WTH does tax have to do with it?

Tithing is screwy. People should give what they can. And they should feel it a little--i.e. there should be something they want that they could otherwise have if they didn't pay tithing. For some, that's 1%, for others, it's 20%. All these number rules are too arbitrary. My 2 cents.

I haven't been to TS in at least 5 years, and no one ever tries to track us down to schedule us. Non-Utah wards are crazy.

[Pelado]

If tithing is a spiritual practice, ie for the good of the giver, then who cares if others have paid tithing on your increase? You didn't.

And WTH does tax have to do with it?

Tithing is screwy. People should give what they can. And they should feel it a little--i.e. there should be something they want that they could otherwise have if they didn't pay tithing. For some, that's 1%, for others, it's 20%. All these number rules are too arbitrary. My 2 cents.

I haven't been to TS in at least 5 years, and no one ever tries to track us down to schedule us. Non-Utah wards are crazy.

Not to be presumptuous, but don't you think you could sacrifice more than 2 cents?

[TripletDaddy]

If tithing is a spiritual practice, ie for the good of the giver, then who cares if others have paid tithing on your increase? You didn't.

that sort of illogic reminds me of the not-so-uncommon experience of arriving somewhere and being told, "go ahead and eat, we already blessed the food."

that one always cracks me up.

[Mrs. Funk]

that sort of illogic reminds me of the not-so-uncommon experience of arriving somewhere and being told, "go ahead and eat, we already blessed the food."

that one always cracks me up.

But you have to remove the curse before eating the food!!

[Dwight Schr-ute]

Non-Utah wards are crazy.

Is this the first time this has been declared here?

Not to be presumptuous, but don't you think you could sacrifice more than 2 cents?

Not since ObamaCare.

[creekster]

I don't know, I think most of you unhappy about the time it takes to go to TS have spent more time typing out your various complaints than you would have taken by actually going. Besides, several bishops have told me that they wish more of the people with fairly stable lives would show up because it is a nice reminder that not everyone is in dire straits. I didn't ask him which one of those groups I was in.

I get that its not perfect and it is not as nice as scratching yourself while watching football on TV on Sunday afternoon, but in the scheme of things, it doesn't seem too onerous to me.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't know, I think most of you unhappy about the time it takes to go to TS have spent more time typing out your various complaints than you would have taken by actually going. Besides, several bishops have told me that they wish more of the people with fairly stable lives would show up because it is a nice reminder that not everyone is in dire straits. I didn't ask him which one of those groups I was in.

I get that its not perfect and it is not as nice as scratching yourself while watching football on TV on Sunday afternoon, but in the scheme of things, it doesn't seem too onerous to me.

[creekster]

Just sayin'

[BigFatMeanie]

My bishop tried 10 minute appointments last year and it was a disaster.

This year he announced he will be using 15-minute increments and hopes for a better result.

They're amateurs. Experienced bishops do 10-minute intervals with the last 10 minutes of each hour being a buffer. This way you get 5 appointments per hour instead of 4 while avoiding the backlog created by an unachievable 6 appointments per hour goal.

[wally]

I'm not telling anyone they shouldn't pay tithing! I'm merely pointing out that tithing settlement . . . um . . . gets results. If people would just pay their tithing in the normal course, instead of bringing it to tithing settlement, I suspect tithing settlement wouldn't be nearly as emphasized. And for those people who don't pay tithing all year long, and then bring an entire year's tithing to tithing settlement, well, let's just say they're not exactly helping.

The only reason that I am a once-a-year guy is that I know I'n gonna have to waste time in TS in Nov-Dec anyway, so I make up that time in increments by not bothering with check-writing or mailing or tracking down a bishopric member throughout the rest of the year. So I blame TS for making me do it once a year.

[BigFatMeanie]

on a weekday, when you are not already at the chapel, it takes you only 10 minutes to gather your family, change clothes, go to the Church, have your interview, go back to your house, and change again.

nobody here believes that TS takes 10 minutes out of your day. you dont have to lie about it.

Who the heck changes their clothes to go to TS? Screw that. I show up in whatever I'm wearing at the time.

It takes me:

5 minutes to walk to church with my family. We always arrive 5 minutes early to chat up the clerk and check the form. If Bishop is on time we go right in. 10 minutes to give the spiel about how tithing will bless us and ask all 7 people in the family if they are full tithe-payers. 5 minutes to walk home.

25 minutes total - minimum. If Bishop is running late then adjust schedule accordingly. But we are smart and usually sign up for the first or second slot in a given session so we don't get hosed by the chatty cathys or the jackwagons that show up late.

[TripletDaddy]

Who the heck changes their clothes to go to TS? Screw that. I show up in whatever I'm wearing at the time.

It takes me:

5 minutes to walk to church with my family. We always arrive 5 minutes early to chat up the clerk and check the form. If Bishop is on time we go right in. 10 minutes to give the spiel about how tithing will bless us and ask all 7 people in the family if they are full tithe-payers. 5 minutes to walk home.

25 minutes total - minimum. If Bishop is running late then adjust schedule accordingly. But we are smart and usually sign up for the first or second slot in a given session so we don't get hosed by the chatty cathys or the jackwagons that show up late.

I have noticed that here in Utah it is more common to go to a bishop or SP interview wearing regular clothes. I cant get used to doing that and probably wont ever. Since my youth, I have dressed up to go see the Bishop. I guess it is out of respect that I feel compelled to wear Sunday clothes in order to refuse a calling he has extended to me.

But to the greater point here, yet another person that knows that SMR is lying.

[Omaha 680]

I don't know, I think most of you unhappy about the time it takes to go to TS have spent more time typing out your various complaints than you would have taken by actually going. Besides, several bishops have told me that they wish more of the people with fairly stable lives would show up because it is a nice reminder that not everyone is in dire straits. I didn't ask him which one of those groups I was in.

I get that its not perfect and it is not as nice as scratching yourself while watching football on TV on Sunday afternoon, but in the scheme of things, it doesn't seem too onerous to me.

I'm glad someone said it. Of all the things to complain about in the church this is a weird one.

[Mormon Red Death]

I'm glad someone said it. Of all the things to complain about in the church this is a weird one.

Except not all of us are a 5 minute walk to church

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