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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25234

    #151
    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    If it were that simple, we could completely eliminate it. And since the actual tithing portion of the settlement interview usually is that simple, I do think we should completely eliminate it.
    For those of you who would like to eliminate tithing settlement altogether, you need to let others know not to bring large donations to tithing settlement. There is a reason this very temporal practice exists under the guise of spirituality, and it's not because bishops enjoy it.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • Art Vandelay
      Striving for mediocrity
      • Jul 2009
      • 10516

      #152
      I always liked TS. It is a time to visit with the people you rarely see during the year. I always felt bad when an active family wouldn't show up, mainly because I always wanted to acknowledge and thank them for their service. Plus, I always enjoyed the homemade cinnamon rolls, bread, and cookies I was given throughout the day.

      Any of you who are in the business of scheduling TS. I highly recommend the full-day Saturday approach. I would rather spend a couple Saturdays and get it all done, than multipe evenings and Sunday afternoons. The clerks would usually split the time, so no one, other than me, had to waste spend their whole weekend at the church.

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #153
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        For those of you who would like to eliminate tithing settlement altogether, you need to let others know not to bring large donations to tithing settlement. There is a reason this very temporal practice exists under the guise of spirituality, and it's not because bishops enjoy it.
        Unfortunately, even if you go to TS to cut a check, you are doing so unnecessarily. You dont have to be a full tithe payer at that exact moment, you just have to live the law of tithing. Skip TS, give the Bishop a break, and submit your check on Sunday.

        If we have to conduct pointless worthiness checks, we should do an annual Law of Chastity settlement. That would be way more interesting, I think.
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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69529

          #154
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Unfortunately, even if you go to TS to cut a check, you are doing so unnecessarily. You dont have to be a full tithe payer at that exact moment, you just have to live the law of tithing. Skip TS, give the Bishop a break, and submit your check on Sunday.

          If we have to conduct pointless worthiness checks, we should do an annual Law of Chastity settlement. That would be way more interesting, I think.
          Nice. I haven't laughed this hard since CMBF posted that image of Jesus.
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          • Pheidippides
            Liberal Feminazi
            • Nov 2008
            • 14759

            #155
            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
            For those of you who would like to eliminate tithing settlement altogether, you need to let others know not to bring large donations to tithing settlement. There is a reason this very temporal practice exists under the guise of spirituality, and it's not because bishops enjoy it.
            Wow. That's cynical. Probably true, but cynical.
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            • smokymountainrain
              Impressive Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22593

              #156
              I go to tithing settlement because my bishop wants us to be there. He's a good guy and a friend, and if it makes him happy to have my family show up, I don't mind taking ten minutes on a given day to show up.
              I'm like LeBron James.
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              • TripletDaddy
                sweet triple
                • Nov 2008
                • 58186

                #157
                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                I go to tithing settlement because my bishop wants us to be there. He's a good guy and a friend, and if it makes him happy to have my family show up, I don't mind taking ten minutes on a given day to oblige.
                1. it doesnt make him happy to sit through all those interviews.
                2. it doesnt take you only 10 minutes
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                • Donuthole
                  Official Outgayer
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 25234

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Pheidippides View Post
                  Wow. That's cynical. Probably true, but cynical.
                  I'm not telling anyone they shouldn't pay tithing! I'm merely pointing out that tithing settlement . . . um . . . gets results. If people would just pay their tithing in the normal course, instead of bringing it to tithing settlement, I suspect tithing settlement wouldn't be nearly as emphasized. And for those people who don't pay tithing all year long, and then bring an entire year's tithing to tithing settlement, well, let's just say they're not exactly helping.
                  Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                  There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69529

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    I'm not telling anyone they shouldn't pay tithing! I'm merely pointing out that tithing settlement . . . um . . . gets results. If people would just pay their tithing in the normal course, instead of bringing it to tithing settlement, I suspect tithing settlement wouldn't be nearly as emphasized.
                    I don't think there is any question about the motivation for tithing settlement.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Donuthole
                      Official Outgayer
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 25234

                      #160
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      I don't think there is any question about the motivation for tithing settlement.
                      Right. So if we know the reason, then we can all do our part to eliminate that reason.
                      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                      • smokymountainrain
                        Impressive Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22593

                        #161
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        1. it doesnt make him happy to sit through all those interviews.
                        2. it doesnt take you only 10 minutes
                        1. I didn't sign up this year. He asked if we would come on either Tuesday the 10th or Thursday the 12 of December.

                        2. It never takes me longer than 10 minutes.

                        But that was a good effort, TD!
                        I'm like LeBron James.
                        -mpfunk

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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #162
                          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                          1. I didn't sign up this year. He asked if we would come on either Tuesday the 10th or Thursday the 12 of December.

                          2. It never takes me longer than 10 minutes.

                          But that was a good effort, TD!
                          on a weekday, when you are not already at the chapel, it takes you only 10 minutes to gather your family, change clothes, go to the Church, have your interview, go back to your house, and change again.

                          nobody here believes that TS takes 10 minutes out of your day. you dont have to lie about it.
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                          • Pheidippides
                            Liberal Feminazi
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14759

                            #163
                            Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                            I'm not telling anyone they shouldn't pay tithing! I'm merely pointing out that tithing settlement . . . um . . . gets results. If people would just pay their tithing in the normal course, instead of bringing it to tithing settlement, I suspect tithing settlement wouldn't be nearly as emphasized. And for those people who don't pay tithing all year long, and then bring an entire year's tithing to tithing settlement, well, let's just say they're not exactly helping.
                            Oh, I don't disagree with you at all (and my own experience as clerk backs this up completely). I guess I didn't expect you to be the one to point it out.
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                            • smokymountainrain
                              Impressive Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22593

                              #164
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              on a weekday, when you are not already at the chapel, it takes you only 10 minutes to gather your family, change clothes, go to the Church, have your interview, go back to your house, and change again.

                              nobody here believes that TS takes 10 minutes out of your day. you dont have to lie about it.
                              It's a bit of weak admission on your part that you were wrong about the bishop wanting us to be there, but coming from you, I'll take it. Thanks!
                              I'm like LeBron James.
                              -mpfunk

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                              • Northwestcoug
                                Cocked and Loaded
                                • May 2011
                                • 17944

                                #165
                                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                Comments in another thread brought a question to mind that makes me wonder how others feel.

                                Let's say at Christmas you give each of your kids $10,000 (I use that figure because $100 is like a normal present). Although done at Christmas it isn't like it is done every Christmas.

                                Should the kids pay tithing on it? If my kids asked, I would say no, I already paid on it. It is after tithing funds.

                                I realize in the strictest terms it is an "increase" to them, but if that is the case should I deduct it from my years increase?
                                Back in the day, I had my kids pay tithing on all birthday/Christmas money. I thought it a good way to teach them the principle. One year I had realized that one of them didn't pay from gift money. At tithing settlement I naively said she wasn't a full-tithe payer. This was before I realized that she was going to bring the tithe-paying statistics of the ward down. Oh well. At least she is on the church records paying one partial year of tithing
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