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  • Portland Ute
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 5647

    #871
    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
    My brother in law coached him last year in the 8th grade. Said he is the most humble, hard working kid he has ever seen. He is close to 6 feet already and has some big time potential. He also told me that he was the fastest kid on their team last year. I asked him if he grew up cheering for BYU or Utah and my BIL said he wasn't sure.
    Thanks for the information.

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    • woot
      Resident Science Cop
      • Nov 2008
      • 5531

      #872
      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      In no way was I saying that Murphy was not good enough to play tight end at BYU. But there is a lot more talent at the position on the BYU roster than Utahs.

      Holt- 5 star
      Mahina- 4 star
      Wilson- 4 star
      Matthews- 4 star
      Friel- 3 star
      Reden- 3star

      They already moved Muehlman who was ranked the same as Murphy to D-end. Obviously star ratings don't mean much but at least on paper Murphy would have been buried. Not to mention he would have grey shirted last year while all of these guys solidify their spots. He would have had a definite uphill battle ahead of him.
      I thought Holt was like a high 3/low 4-star type. Who gave him 5 stars?

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      • U-Ute
        Non member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2071

        #873
        Originally posted by woot View Post
        I thought Holt was like a high 3/low 4-star type. Who gave him 5 stars?
        Dick Harmon.

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        • BoylenOver
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 9146

          #874
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          Interesting story on Jake Murphy's recruitment:

          http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...rphy.html?pg=1
          Utah was able to offer him a scholarship because they didn't recruit him coming out of high school? What a bizarre rule.
          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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          • myboynoah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 21719

            #875
            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            Utah was able to offer him a scholarship because they didn't recruit him coming out of high school? What a bizarre rule.
            What is the rule? I thought if kids left on missions, they became free agents upon returning. That only seems fair. I don't understand why Utah or anybody else couldn't offer him a scholarship, whether or not they recruited him out of high school.

            Or does this have something to do with the unwritten agreement to which Coach Krysto was referring?
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • BoylenOver
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 9146

              #876
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              What is the rule? I thought if kids left on missions, they became free agents upon returning. That only seems fair. I don't understand why Utah or anybody else couldn't offer him a scholarship, whether or not they recruited him out of high school.

              Or does this have something to do with the unwritten agreement to which Coach Krysto was referring?
              This is from the article (emphasis added):

              Jake was originally supposed to leave for his mission in December 2008, but got his departure moved to October. After serving in Australia nearly two years, he was released in August 2010 to enable him to enroll in time for fall semester.

              Meanwhile, BYU still believed Jake was returning in December and had no scholarship available for him until winter semester. BYU had hoped to remedy the situation by grayshirting Jake, but he wanted to be part of the team immediately. Because the Utes had not recruited Jake, they were able to offer him a scholarship in the fall. Upon returning from his mission, Jake, accompanied by his father, drove straight to a Ute practice session to observe, and that was that.
              I have no clue what the rule is, and have never heard of that.
              "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
              "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #877
                Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                This is from the article (emphasis added):



                I have no clue what the rule is, and have never heard of that.
                Yeah, I read that and I have no clue either.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • Hsaru
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1109

                  #878
                  I find it hard to believe the Utes didn't recruit Jake Murphy at all, they don't send one of the higher ranked players in the state a letter or an offer even?

                  I don't think anyone understands the Riley Nelson rule though, I've heard it explained tons of different ways.

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                  • cougjunkie
                    *Banned*
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 23223

                    #879
                    Originally posted by woot View Post
                    I thought Holt was like a high 3/low 4-star type. Who gave him 5 stars?
                    Holt was the number 2 tight end in the in the country. He had offers from Florida, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Wisconsin. One of the biggest recruits the state has seen. He was also invited to the US army game.

                    edit:I just looked he was a 4 star on scout and ranked 5th in the country.
                    *Banned*

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                    • SeattleUte
                      Faith crisis consultant
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 20837

                      #880
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Holt was the number 2 tight end in the in the country. He had offers from Florida, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Wisconsin. One of the biggest recruits the state has seen. He was also invited to the US army game.

                      edit:I just looked he was a 4 star on scout and ranked 5th in the country.
                      So he wasn't a five star. What I thought.

                      Bing fifth rated tight end is a like being the fifth rated kicker.
                      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                      --Jonathan Swift

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12341

                        #881
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                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        Holt was the number 2 tight end in the in the country. He had offers from Florida, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Wisconsin. One of the biggest recruits the state has seen. He was also invited to the US army game.

                        edit:I just looked he was a 4 star on scout and ranked 5th in the country.
                        urban wanted him badly.

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                        • LA Ute
                          Receiver of Memory
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19512

                          #882
                          Nice short piece on Travis Wilson from the L.A. Times:

                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • U-Ute
                            Non member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2071

                            #883
                            Originally posted by @LyaWodraska
                            Hearing Justin Thomas, corner out of Orange Texas, has committed to the Utes, trying to confirm
                            Anyone know anything about this kid?

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                            • BoylenOver
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 9146

                              #884
                              Justin Thomas

                              Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.


                              19th-best corner, 29th-best player from the state of Texas, Rivals250 player. Offers from 8 total schools: Baylor, Houston, Iowa St, Memphis, Missouri, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, and Utah.

                              (all of this information is according to Rivals)

                              A nice get, and finally some good news recruiting-wise for the Utes this summer.
                              "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                              "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                              • Jarid in Cedar
                                CS Institutional Memory
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 13234

                                #885
                                Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                                Justin Thomas

                                Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.


                                19th-best corner, 29th-best player from the state of Texas, Rivals250 player. Offers from 8 total schools: Baylor, Houston, Iowa St, Memphis, Missouri, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, and Utah.

                                (all of this information is according to Rivals)

                                A nice get, and finally some good news recruiting-wise for the Utes this summer.
                                I hope we will schedule some OOC games in the Houston area to keep a foot in Scalley's recruiting footprint
                                "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                                "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                                "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                                -Rick Majerus

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