Recruiting 2014

[MartyFunkhouser]

Most of this discussion was in response to your fellow fans' ever-changing story about a rejected LOI.

I realize that is where the discussion came from. I'm talking about how I'm confused that both sides seem to care so much about an Oregon flame out. Hey in the same year, Oregon had 2 4-star receivers transfer. Maybe he will be dominant like Tacoi Sumler at Appalachian State.

[Topper]

Despite cougjunkie's attempts to talk up the amazing returning WRs for BYU, you don't take 2 JC transfer WRs and a player with only 1 year of eligibility unless you have some serious talent problems at the position.

The platoon under-performed last year, and it appears the coaches were set upon plugging holes. If we lost our best receiver, and did nothing, the prospects of improving much would be dim. However, if we give Taysom a few more options, it might open up the offense quite a bit. We shall see, but Kurtz has good credentials, Leslie has proven he can be reliable, then the others should make it interesting. If they were not better than what we had, it was worth the effort. We shall see. I like the effort and hope the coaches selected ones who will help. My suspicion is at least one will perform and become a fan favorite, one might contribute and another may disappoint, but overall a good average.

BYU's YAC last year was disappointing. One or some should help.

[The_Douger]

He is LDS. I don't understand why anyone turns down an offer from USC to go to BYU. It just doesn't make any sense. I would say the same thing about turning down an offer from USC to play for Utah.

Look at the LDS kids that have gone to USC. Besides Havili, how many have really had great success there? They play special teams and get spot time in the games. Then they xfer to BYU and play a lot. I'd rather play more. It goes to show the talent differential between USC and BYU because Warner's one of our best gets and on USC he's probably their last scholarship player.

[Jacob]

Stay tuned.

Craig Hirschi @cjhirschi 8m
@geoffmartzen anymore signing day suprises?

Geoff Martzen @geoffmartzen 11m
@cjhirschi stay tuned

[Jacob]

Remember that silly conversation about BYU coaches naively focusing too much on Utah recruits? The recruiting map is an interesting rebuttal: http://byucougars.com/m-football/201...ng-day-central

[TripletDaddy]

Look at the LDS kids that have gone to USC. Besides Havili, how many have really had great success there? They play special teams and get spot time in the games. Then they xfer to BYU and play a lot. I'd rather play more. It goes to show the talent differential between USC and BYU because Warner's one of our best gets and on USC he's probably their last scholarship player.

USC would have been thrilled to take Warner. I think their low-effort pursuit of them had more to do with the fact that he was a heavy BYU lean this entire time. In retrospect, his last second mid-week SC visit was clearly a courtesy thing, most likely.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I realize that is where the discussion came from. I'm talking about how I'm confused that both sides seem to care so much about an Oregon flame out. Hey in the same year, Oregon had 2 4-star receivers transfer. Maybe he will be dominant like Tacoi Sumler at Appalachian State.

We are talking about it a lot because it is so darned funny.

[Topper]

He is LDS. I don't understand why anyone turns down an offer from USC to go to BYU. It just doesn't make any sense. I would say the same thing about turning down an offer from USC to play for Utah.

Really?

I don't understand turning down Stanford, an Ivy League school or perhaps a military academy if that is your druthers, but a degree from USC is not that much different than one from BYU. I suppose we could extend that further to a few other elite schools, such as Cal Tech or MIT but they don't field competitive athletics for the most part.

You can have a comparable degree, be amongst the tribe and maybe get to see something new.

[Blueintheface]

Remember that silly conversation about BYU coaches naively focusing too much on Utah recruits? The recruiting map is an interesting rebuttal: http://byucougars.com/m-football/201...ng-day-central

Shit we suck north of the Donna Dixon Line.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Remember that silly conversation about BYU coaches naively focusing too much on Utah recruits? The recruiting map is an interesting rebuttal: http://byucougars.com/m-football/201...ng-day-central

Interesting how they are almost all from mild climates. I hope they all bring a warm coat.

[MartyFunkhouser]

The platoon under-performed last year, and it appears the coaches were set upon plugging holes. If we lost our best receiver, and did nothing, the prospects of improving much would be dim. However, if we give Taysom a few more options, it might open up the offense quite a bit. We shall see, but Kurtz has good credentials, Leslie has proven he can be reliable, then the others should make it interesting. If they were not better than what we had, it was worth the effort. We shall see. I like the effort and hope the coaches selected ones who will help. My suspicion is at least one will perform and become a fan favorite, one might contribute and another may disappoint, but overall a good average.

BYU's YAC last year was disappointing. One or some should help.

I see why BYU fans are really excited about Kurtz and Leslie. Kurtz had legitimate offers as a JC guy. Oregon and USC don't make serious runs at JC-players unless they are great talents. I'm really jealous of Kutz.

Leslie has performed at the same level of BYU with his time at UTEP, so you can expect him to contribute.

As for Blackmon, he flamed out once at the DI level in Oregon. He was being offered by lower tier programs (BYU, Utah, Boise St, and Fresno St). Maybe he ends up being good, but he is far from a guarantee. Reminds me of Ute fans that were so excited over Aiona Key because he was a 4-star out of high school.

[Blueintheface]

I see why BYU fans are really excited about Kurtz and Leslie. Kurtz had legitimate offers as a JC guy. Oregon and USC don't make serious runs at JC-players unless they are great talents. I'm really jealous of Kutz.

Leslie has performed at the same level of BYU with his time at UTEP, so you can expect him to contribute.

As for Blackmon, he flamed out once at the DI level in Oregon. He was being offered by lower tier programs (BYU, Utah, Boise St, and Fresno St). Maybe he ends up being good, but he is far from a guarantee. Reminds me of Ute fans that were so excited over Aiona Key because he was a 4-star out of high school.

I'm not sure about the individual players going to Utah from the state but I'm jealous you have in-roads in Florida.

[LiveCoug]

I see why BYU fans are really excited about Kurtz and Leslie. Kurtz had legitimate offers as a JC guy. Oregon and USC don't make serious runs at JC-players unless they are great talents. I'm really jealous of Kutz.

Leslie has performed at the same level of BYU with his time at UTEP, so you can expect him to contribute.

As for Blackmon, he flamed out once at the DI level in Oregon. He was being offered by lower tier programs (BYU, Utah, Boise St, and Fresno St). Maybe he ends up being good, but he is far from a guarantee. Reminds me of Ute fans that were so excited over Aiona Key because he was a 4-star out of high school.

To be fair, he also had offers from mid to lower tier PAC 12 teams too in Washington, Arizona, and Cal. Also Kstate and Illinois.

[Topper]

I see why BYU fans are really excited about Kurtz and Leslie. Kurtz had legitimate offers as a JC guy. Oregon and USC don't make serious runs at JC-players unless they are great talents. I'm really jealous of Kutz.

Leslie has performed at the same level of BYU with his time at UTEP, so you can expect him to contribute.

As for Blackmon, he flamed out once at the DI level in Oregon. He was being offered by lower tier programs (BYU, Utah, Boise St, and Fresno St). Maybe he ends up being good, but he is far from a guarantee. Reminds me of Ute fans that were so excited over Aiona Key because he was a 4-star out of high school.

As for Blackmon, Utah, Boise State and Fresno State offering at the receiver position is a good indicator for me.

All three of those schools have historically been better at identifying and using receivers than BYU. So beating those schools out for that position encourages me. Would I rather we beat out Florida State, Alabama and USC? Of course, but that won't happen on a regular basis.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Really?

I don't understand turning down Stanford, an Ivy League school or perhaps a military academy if that is your druthers, but a degree from USC is not that much different than one from BYU. I suppose we could extend that further to a few other elite schools, such as Cal Tech or MIT but they don't field competitive athletics for the most part.

You can have a comparable degree, be amongst the tribe and maybe get to see something new.

The degree is not the issue here. The issue is at USC you can play at the highest levels of college football.