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  • THIS is the PSU fans I have seen and dealt with.. And THIS is why I still see the delusional PSU fan not realizing the issue and it isn't about some coach...

    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footbal...gns-beer-story

    Washington Times writer Nathan Fenno has that story, about a father named John Matko who drove three hours from Pittsburgh to hold up signs that quoted Albert Einstein's "The world is a dangerous place" remark and asked the community to "Honor the abused kids" by canceling the game and the rest of Penn State's season. For his trouble, Matko, who reportedly kept quiet as he was berated, was showered with expletives and a beer, called a "pussy," and rewarded with a solitary "I agree" over the course of an hour.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-joe-paterno/
    Last edited by dabrockster; 11-14-2011, 09:27 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
      There was similar sentiment after the JFK assassination and not playing the Oklahoma-Nebraska game. But the game was played as scheduled.

      And there's a big difference between boycotting a game and having the game canceled. That's why I stated that suggesting that Nebraska would boycott the game is idiotic unless Jim Delany and the Big Ten got involved and decided to cancel the game. There was no way Nebraska was going to boycott the game which would further embarrass Penn St. There's too much respect between the programs for that to occur.
      PSU has lost all respect with this sordid affair. Even more, IMO, PSU is radioactive and those that associate with PSU now are also tainted by so doing.

      Equating the assassination of JFK is dubious at best. Firstly, it didn't occur on campus at either OU or NU. Had it, I have a hard time believing the game would have been played. Sure, the implications of the assassination were far greater nationally and internationally, but it is not, IMO, as horrendous as what Sandusky did and to which others turned a blind eye and/or enabled through action or inaction.
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      • Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
        PSU has lost all respect with this sordid affair. Even more, IMO, PSU is radioactive and those that associate with PSU now are also tainted by so doing.

        Equating the assassination of JFK is dubious at best. Firstly, it didn't occur on campus at either OU or NU. Had it, I have a hard time believing the game would have been played. Sure, the implications of the assassination were far greater nationally and internationally, but it is not, IMO, as horrendous as what Sandusky did and to which others turned a blind eye and/or enabled through action or inaction.
        I only brought up the JFK assassination because that is the only other incident in my memory where there was talk about canceling a college football game other than weather related conditions. On further review, college games were canceled after 911 but there were probably logistical issues factoring into that decision. I agree that there is not a strong correlation between the JFK assignation (or 911) and the child abuse scandal at PSU - a poor comparision on my part.

        I don't view all that associate with PSU as being radioactive. Certainly, not the students and football players at PSU. I have trouble seeing how canceling a PSU-Nebraska football game "honors" the victims but understand how some (including Nebraska's HC) might see it as the best course of action. But Nebraska boycotting the game would further embarass PSU and cause a lot ot enmity between the schools. It wasn't going to happen.
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        • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
          I don't view all that associate with PSU as being radioactive. Certainly, not the students and football players at PSU.
          Yeah, you are right. The students, athletes and faculty are victims as well to the extent that they knew nothing and are now at an institution that has sullied itself worse than any other in memory. So, yeah let me backpeddle a bit from that statement, but I would still be hesitant to associate with PSU after this debacle.

          Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
          I have trouble seeing how canceling a PSU-Nebraska football game "honors" the victims but understand how some (including Nebraska's HC) might see it as the best course of action. But Nebraska boycotting the game would further embarass PSU and cause a lot ot enmity between the schools. It wasn't going to happen.
          At this point the concern shouldn't be about not embarassing PSU further. I think that refusing to play the game and issuing a statement that due to the gravity of the charges it seems inappropriate to host an athletic event so soon after it came to light. I think that would be meaningful and could offer to the victims some comfort in that others feel their ordeal and pain warrants forgoing a major football game. I agree, though, that it was unlikely which is why I prefaced my initial statement with "I'd love to see...".
          Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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          • B1G takes Paterno's name off championship trophy.

            http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...-trophy-111411

            JoePa is officially a pariah.

            Next up: statue in front of Beaver Stadium.
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            • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
              B1G takes Paterno's name off championship trophy.

              http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...-trophy-111411

              JoePa is officially a pariah.

              Next up: statue in front of Beaver Stadium.
              Does PSU really have the guts to do that?

              I don't think so, because I believe the reason Paterno was fired was because of the PR disaster for the university, not because he ignored the rape of children. Paterno generated millions and millions of $ for the university through football and the university was more than happy to keep the money coming in at the expense of young boys.

              If the statue is removed, it won't be because PSU believes Paterno to having done something wrong, but to save it's own face in the world of public opinion.
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              • Charles P. Pierce:

                The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children. That is all they are about. The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the possibility that people lied to a grand jury about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the likelihood that most of the people who had the authority at Penn State to stop the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky proved themselves to have the moral backbone of ribbon worms.

                It no longer matters if there continues to be a football program at Penn State. It no longer even matters if there continues to be a university there at all. All of these considerations are trivial by comparison to what went on in and around the Penn State football program.

                ...
                If that blights Joe Paterno's declining years, that's too bad. If that takes a chunk out of the endowment, hold a damn bake sale. If that means that Penn State spends some time being known as the university where a child got raped, that's what happens when you're a university where a child got raped. Any sympathy for this institution went down the drain in the shower room in the Lasch Building. There's nothing that can happen to the university, or to the people sunk up to their eyeballs in this incredible moral quagmire, that's worse than what happened to the children who got raped at Penn State. Good Lord, people, get up off your knees and get over yourselves.

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                • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
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                  • Originally posted by YOhio View Post


                    Excellent column. Thanks for that link, YO.
                    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                    "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                    • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                      Does PSU really have the guts to do that?

                      I don't think so, because I believe the reason Paterno was fired was because of the PR disaster for the university, not because he ignored the rape of children. Paterno generated millions and millions of $ for the university through football and the university was more than happy to keep the money coming in at the expense of young boys.

                      If the statue is removed, it won't be because PSU believes Paterno to having done something wrong, but to save it's own face in the world of public opinion.
                      I hope so. We shouldn't celebrate child rapists and people who protect them and allow them to collect more victims. I'd like to see him do prison time.

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                      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                        Nice article....

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                        • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                          That's why I refuse to watch anything by Roman Polanski.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            That's why I refuse to watch anything by Roman Polanski.
                            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                              • I can't comment on this subject with rationality.

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