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  • cougjunkie
    *Banned*
    • Nov 2008
    • 23223

    #916
    Originally posted by falafel View Post
    I have never played, coached, or officiated organized football at any level. My lack of football knowledge is a known known on this board.

    And yet, even I understand how a QB is not measured solely on his physical skills.
    What else are you going to measure a high school QB on? His long hair and six pack abs?

    Clearly D-1 coaches thought Lark was better that is why he had so many offers and Riley had 1 to Utah State.

    It is not like you get much time to sit down and break down film with them or watch them command a huddle. You basically have a few one on one meetings to see how they are as a person and watch game tape. That is why there are so many hits and misses in recruiting.

    Coming out of highschool the only clear difference between Lark and NElson was that Lark was bigger, stronger, had comparable speed, and was the better D-1 prospect.
    *Banned*

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    • Tone Loc
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 475

      #917
      Originally posted by falafel View Post
      I have never played, coached, or officiated organized football at any level. My lack of football knowledge is a known known on this board.

      And yet, even I understand how a QB is not measured solely on his physical skills.
      Who said they were? By the way, thanks for being honest about your vast football IQ.

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 38030

        #918
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        What else are you going to measure a high school QB on? His long hair and six pack abs?
        Heh.

        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        Clearly D-1 coaches thought Lark was better that is why he had so many offers and Riley had 1 to Utah State.

        It is not like you get much time to sit down and break down film with them or watch them command a huddle. You basically have a few one on one meetings to see how they are as a person and watch game tape. That is why there are so many hits and misses in recruiting.

        Coming out of highschool the only clear difference between Lark and NElson was that Lark was bigger, stronger, had comparable speed, and was the better D-1 prospect.

        I don't disagree with you, and I'm not sure Shaka would either. I think its pretty clear that Lark was the better college QB prospect.

        But for whatever reason, the coaches have decided now that Nelson is a better college QB. Either that, or the coaches have some other reason for not playing Lark over Nelson. I would hope that at this point, the best player would be playing.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • MarkGrace
          Grooveshark dick tease
          • Dec 2008
          • 31546

          #919
          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          O. Chambers.
          Wasn't he kicked off the team?
          So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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          • falafel
            loves to talk on things
            • Mar 2009
            • 38030

            #920
            Originally posted by Tone Loc View Post
            Who said they were? By the way, thanks for being honest about your vast football IQ.
            Now you're beginning to see my point. We can remain non-enemies.
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            Dig your own grave, and save!

            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • jay santos
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 13652

              #921
              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
              I've also always been curious about what the redshirt discussion between Bronco and Jake looked like. I've always said that if I'm him I'm asking for a guarantee that the RS doesn't come off, but that's not exactly something I can see Bronco promising.
              This is what I'd say if I were Bronco.

              If Riley goes down, and you refuse to come off redshirt, that's fine. But most likely we would put Hill in. And then you'd be battling a guy with starts under his belt for the job in 2013. So it's up to you.

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              • MarkGrace
                Grooveshark dick tease
                • Dec 2008
                • 31546

                #922
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                This is what I'd say if I were Bronco.

                If Riley goes down, and you refuse to come off redshirt, that's fine. But most likely we would put Hill in. And then you'd be battling a guy with starts under his belt for the job in 2013. So it's up to you.
                I don't think there's any way they'd put Hill in -- hopefully they learned their lesson with Heaps. It would be either Lark or Munns.
                So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69811

                  #923
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  What else are you going to measure a high school QB on? His long hair and six pack abs?

                  Clearly D-1 coaches thought Lark was better that is why he had so many offers and Riley had 1 to Utah State.

                  It is not like you get much time to sit down and break down film with them or watch them command a huddle. You basically have a few one on one meetings to see how they are as a person and watch game tape. That is why there are so many hits and misses in recruiting.

                  Coming out of highschool the only clear difference between Lark and NElson was that Lark was bigger, stronger, had comparable speed, and was the better D-1 prospect.
                  My problem is that I can't figure out what exactly is being argued.

                  Most promising prospect coming out of high school? Lark
                  Which one has excelled more in college? Nelson

                  What am I missing in this pissing contest?
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Flystripper
                    Degenerate Gambler
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14114

                    #924
                    This thread just got better!
                    Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                    • Green Monstah
                      Royal Rooter
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 14011

                      #925
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      My problem is that I can't figure out what exactly is being argued.

                      Most promising prospect coming out of high school? Lark
                      Which one has excelled more in college? Nelson

                      What am I missing in this pissing contest?
                      Being splattered with urine?
                      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                      • cougjunkie
                        *Banned*
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 23223

                        #926
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        O. Chambers.
                        If he had other options it might have been different.
                        *Banned*

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                        • cougjunkie
                          *Banned*
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 23223

                          #927
                          Originally posted by falafel View Post
                          Heh.




                          I don't disagree with you, and I'm not sure Shaka would either. I think its pretty clear that Lark was the better college QB prospect.

                          But for whatever reason, the coaches have decided now that Nelson is a better college QB. Either that, or the coaches have some other reason for not playing Lark over Nelson. I would hope that at this point, the best player would be playing.
                          These are BYU coaches we are talking about the best player does not always play. The player most likely to star in the remake of RUDY is the one that will play.
                          *Banned*

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                          • Viking
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 6470

                            #928
                            Originally posted by Tone Loc View Post
                            Dude, coaching 8th grade football does not qualify you as an expert. Its funny that you say I have no idea about the vast knowledge the members of this board have about football. Who nikuman and falafel? lol. Have any of you played at a level higher than high school? Homeschool football doesnt count. This is rich. Keep it coming fellas.
                            How many downs of CFB have you played?

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                            • Tone Loc
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 475

                              #929
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              My problem is that I can't figure out what exactly is being argued.

                              Most promising prospect coming out of high school? Lark
                              Which one has excelled more in college? Nelson

                              What am I missing in this pissing contest?
                              I am not sure I remember either. After about two exchanges with people on this board I realize I dont even care and I lose interest.

                              Lark or Riley, Riley or Jake. Just wins some meaningful games next year.

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69811

                                #930
                                Originally posted by Tone Loc View Post
                                Lark or Riley, Riley or Jake. Just wins some meaningful games next year.


                                On that we can agree.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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