2011 BYU Football Thread

[falafel]

This is when he made the comment of KVN and Frazier being neck-and-neck. He made that remark, then someone said "can we take that to mean KVN has overtaken Fraizer?" He then mentioned the above and that J-Mo (his words) is great in coverage and KVN has possibly been playing at a higher level than anyone else on the defense.

But Frazier hasn't been practicing lately, I don't think. Kind of hard not to rise above some one who's not there.

[MarkGrace]

But Frazier hasn't been practicing lately, I don't think. Kind of hard not to rise above some one who's not there.

Right. But it's still a comment from Wednesday (are you on HotLunch's news schedule over there in Vegas?!) speculating that KVN had moved ahead of Frazier, and at that time Bronco wasn't willing to say KVN had moved ahead of Frazier. They quote that little snippet but then didn't quote what he said right after it.

[oxcoug]

Another sack for Ziggy. And beat Reynolds.

Cld Ziggy be a monster in the making?

[falafel]

Right. But it's still a comment from Wednesday (are you on HotLunch's news schedule over there in Vegas?!) speculating that KVN had moved ahead of Frazier, and at that time Bronco wasn't willing to say KVN had moved ahead of Frazier. They quote that little snippet but then didn't quote what he said right after it.

Yes, from Wednesday () but I think it shows Mendenhall's state of mind. He's not willing to publicly state that KVN has moved ahead of Frazier, especially with Frazier out, but he's already thinking ahead to having KVN along side Kav and Pendelton.

[Sizzle]

Another sack for Ziggy. And beat Reynolds.

Cld Ziggy be a monster in the making?

Could he? The physical tools are definitely there. One of the simplest things to do in football in terms of thinking/assignments is to rush the passer. I think he can have an impact in those terms this year, though is it enough that he can do it at a higher level than JP/KVN, as guys who can contribute more meaningfully in pass coverage or in terms of assignments against the run? That is where his limitations are, IMO, is that if he is in the game, he's going to be there to rush the passer. Maybe things click for him as the year goes on and he can learn enough to be more than just a niche player, but it's hard to have somebody be a monster when they've got one skill (even with the physical tools that he has).

[DapperDan]

Another sack for Ziggy. And beat Reynolds.

Cld Ziggy be a monster in the making?

Now if we could start hearing stories of Ziggy doing things that aren't rushing the QB I would get really, really excited.

[MarkGrace]

Yes, from Wednesday () but I think it shows Mendenhall's state of mind. He's not willing to publicly state that KVN has moved ahead of Frazier, especially with Frazier out, but he's already thinking ahead to having KVN along side Kav and Pendelton.

Well, I'm with you there. I'm not sure how you don't start KVN. On the flip side, it sure is tough to sit someone the team has voted as a captain (which is also the case with Uale).

[Sizzle]

Well, I'm with you there. I'm not sure how you don't start KVN. On the flip side, it sure is tough to sit someone the team has voted as a captain (which is also the case with Uale).

There will be plenty of snaps to go around for JP/KVN and Frazier. Unfortunately all three guys also don't have stellar histories of staying healthy. Maybe they're all due?!?

[BemidjiCoug]

Another sack for Ziggy. And beat Reynolds.

Cld Ziggy be a monster in the making?

They will probably bring him in on passing situations and just let him go wild.

[Surfah]

They will probably bring him in on passing situations and just let him go wild.

That's the plan.

[BemidjiCoug]

Ziggy could end up having some huge games against WAC teams too, especially if BYU puts up a lot of points early. I could see him going off for like 4 sacks in a game against san jose st. or new mexico st. Games like that would give him a chance to do more than just rush the passer too.

[Sizzle]

Ziggy could end up having some huge games against WAC teams too, especially if BYU puts up a lot of points early. I could see him going off for like 4 sacks in a game against san jose st. or new mexico st. Games like that would give him a chance to do more than just rush the passer too.

I love the expectations running rampant on here. KVN and JP are both going to get 20+ sacks this year! Ziggy is going to have 4+ sack games!

Do you know how many times a BYU player has had a 4+ sack game? 4.

6 Shay Muirbrook vs. Kansas St. (1997 Cotton Bowl)
4 Jason Buck vs. Oregon State 1986
4 Kyle Whittingham vs. San Diego St. 1981
4 Setema Gali vs. New Mexico 1999

Do you know how many BYU players have had 20 sacks... in their careers? 8. 17 is the most sacks any BYU player has ever had in a season... and we're going to have two guys eclipse that this year?

I know most of this isn't from you... but man, put your statistical expectations back in check.

[DapperDan]

Now if we could start hearing stories of Ziggy doing things that aren't rushing the QB I would get really, really excited.

Ask and you shall receive:

Ansah has gone from situational rusher to a top-two fixture at weakside right now; Bronco says Ziggy is in the two-deep.
Greg Wrubell

[falafel]

Ask and you shall receive:

Holy carp!

[MarkGrace]

I love the expectations running rampant on here. KVN and JP are both going to get 20+ sacks this year! Ziggy is going to have 4+ sack games!

Do you know how many times a BYU player has had a 4+ sack game? 4.

6 Shay Muirbrook vs. Kansas St. (1997 Cotton Bowl)
4 Jason Buck vs. Oregon State 1986
4 Kyle Whittingham vs. San Diego St. 1981
4 Setema Gali vs. New Mexico 1999

Do you know how many BYU players have had 20 sacks... in their careers? 8. 17 is the most sacks any BYU player has ever had in a season... and we're going to have two guys eclipse that this year?

I know most of this isn't from you... but man, put your statistical expectations back in check.

Plus if we're blowing out WAC teams to the point where he's getting put out there on the field, I highly doubt we're going to be blitzing the passer.