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  • I love how the resident WNBA beat writer has completely refuted a NY Times article with no facts and with no substantive argument. The NY Times isn't the paper of record, Top WNBA hack establishes the record. Do you really refute the larger point of the article? Do you really think they've grossly misrepresented things relating to the relative support of most of the teams.

    All you've really established is that you're clueless regarding statistics and that you didn't know most of New Jersey was in the New York market.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Wow TCU hit the jackpot. That is the best possible outcome for them.
      What would be hilarious is if the SEC adds TCU instead of Texas A&M, the Big 12 adds BYU and kicks out A&M.

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      • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
        I love how the resident WNBA beat writer has completely refuted a NY Times article with no facts and with no substantive argument. The NY Times isn't the paper of record, Top WNBA hack establishes the record. Do you really refute the larger point of the article? Do you really think they've grossly misrepresented things relating to the relative support of most of the teams.

        All you've really established is that you're clueless regarding statistics and that you didn't know most of New Jersey was in the New York market.
        I do not understand why people are taking shots at Top Ute for his job? Seems petty and immature. Leave the personal shots out of arguments.
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        • http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/21...agreement.html

          If true, wow.
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          • Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            I love how the resident WNBA beat writer has completely refuted a NY Times article with no facts and with no substantive argument. The NY Times isn't the paper of record, Top WNBA hack establishes the record. Do you really refute the larger point of the article? Do you really think they've grossly misrepresented things relating to the relative support of most of the teams.

            All you've really established is that you're clueless regarding statistics and that you didn't know most of New Jersey was in the New York market.
            Anyone who uses a story where the primary data source lists is own data as "highly inaccurate" as gospel needs their head checked. And a quick read of the comments reveals several no-brainer claims as to how many of the results of this survey shouldn't be taken seriously.

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            • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
              So he gets a golden parachute?

              I think he should be forced to pay a $18 million exit fee for leaving the conference
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by CJF View Post
                I do not understand why people are taking shots at Top Ute for his job? Seems petty and immature. Leave the personal shots out of arguments.
                I agree. That kind of personal attack should have no place here.
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                • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  So he gets a golden parachute?

                  I think he should be forced to pay a $18 million exit fee for leaving the conference
                  Split evenly with all the schools or paid directly to the LHN?
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                  • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                    Split evenly with all the schools or paid directly to the LHN?
                    Either way no school in the Big 12 would be worse off than the utes this year....

                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      Either way no school in the Big 12 would be worse off than the utes this year....

                      That only hurts because it's true, although I've heard that Utah gets its share of tv money.
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                      • Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                        Evidently, you missed reading the part that said this survey is "highly inaccurate." That's the fine print, by the way.

                        Talk about shooting fish in a barrel. I've long since won this battle.
                        It doesn't say the survey is "highly inaccurate." It says the map is "highly inaccurate."
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                        • Originally posted by landpoke View Post
                          It doesn't say the survey is "highly inaccurate." It says the map is "highly inaccurate."
                          ouch! The fish are shooting back.
                          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                          • Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                            That only hurts because it's true, although I've heard that Utah gets its share of tv money.
                            In all honesty, right now I'd prefer the PAC because of stability. However, if the Big 12 holds long-term, it is better for BYU (culturally) and me. I really hope it happens and both schools are better off than they were a year ago.
                            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                            • So is the contest over? Who won? If it's still going I've had 5 bottled waters tonight and really would like to show what I am capable of.
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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                In all honesty, right now I'd prefer the PAC because of stability. However, if the Big 12 holds long-term, it is better for BYU (culturally) and me. I really hope it happens and both schools are better off than they were a year ago.
                                Agreed. And as DDD pointed out, it would be fun to have a PAC12/Big12 rivalry in such close proximity along the Wasatch Front.
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