The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Babs]

OU is the big prize principally because they are NOT Texas. And, yes as I posted earlier, OU can call it's shot (is a force) and it has finally given Texas notice.

Right. In some respects Oklahoma is more desirable because it lacks the lonestar complex. However, there's no denying that the real prize is Friday Night Lights recruiting.

[tooblue]

Right. In some respects Oklahoma is more desirable because it lacks the lonestar complex. However, there's no denying that the real prize is Friday Night Lights recruiting.

I think the Friday Night Lights recruiting is overblown. The SEC has managed to win 5 straight BCS title games without it.

[falafel]

Ok. I can go radio silent.

No, don't got silent. The the jury assess all of the evidence and decide its weight.

[Paperback Writer]

You guys do realize that OU and UT have been in separate conferences for all but 15 years of their 100-year histories? And that Oklahoma has recruited from the Lone Star State all along?

Kids from Texas will continue to come to OU for the same reasons they always have: because Oklahoma's flagship university is a premier force in college football, and the state borders their own.

So does this mean that the Sooners are "running" from the Longhorns like one of their former conference rivals. Or maybe there is something to this "conference stability" reasoning as stated by a certain Hall of Fame coach and current AD.

BTW, agree that Oklahoma will always recruit successfully in Texas as long as the Sooners are winning. My fear is that OU begins to have greater success in California (in addition to Texas) if they join the PAC-12.

[statman]

No. All focused on TX, OU. Viking is the first one to mention BYU as a partner, which is why it sounds fishy. If the LHN is an obstacle to the PAC16, imagine what difficulty there would be for BYUTV. BYUTV is not going away - it has to be accomodated by any new conference we join.

On 1280 during drive home, Monson talked about scuttlebutt about how the old PAC-8 really want to reform. The AZ interlopers never really have been accepted as 'real' PAC material.

If that were the case, I could see BYU joining the PAC as part of a 16-team conference. The old PAC-8 would be one division (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, OreSt, Wash & WashSt) , and the new guys - BYU, Utah, Colorado, AZ, AZSt, Texas, OK & OK St. What a fantastic conference that would be!

The guys in BYU's division have no problem with the LDS thing. The other guys only have to play them every 4 years or if they meet them in a conference championship - only actually on their campus every 8 years. That's not SUCH a huge deal...

[statman]

Man, Viking, just when I started to get excited about your source...

If BYU was an option for the PAC 12, they would already be IN the PAC 12.

If BYU were put in a division outside of the original PAC-8 teams, I think they might go for it. In a 16-team league, teams in different divisions are really only loosely affiliated.

[Shaka]

Viking we don't need to hear anything from your "sources" anymore, I knew from the moment you said "done deal" a week ago you or your "friend" are making up complete BS.

No offense dude but This isn't Cougarboard and there's no need to kill the messenger.

Viking keep on keeping on.

[Moliere]

You guys do realize that OU and UT have been in separate conferences for all but 15 years of their 100-year histories? And that Oklahoma has recruited from the Lone Star State all along?

Kids from Texas will continue to come to OU for the same reasons they always have: because Oklahoma's flagship university is a premier force in college football, and the state borders their own.

I had no idea. Thanks for informing me...

[Pheidippides]

No offense dude but This isn't Cougarboard and there's no need to kill the messenger.

Viking keep on keeping on.

+1. Viking's source may be full of shit. Hell, Viking may be too. But maybe not. So let him speak. We are adults around here, or at least should be.

[Hsaru]

I'm not really attacking Viking, but seeing people's hopes getting up based on the BS he's throwing out there. I don't see why people would want to troll their fellow fans with something like this.

[Babs]

So does this mean that the Sooners are "running" from the Longhorns like one of their former conference rivals.

Considering that Sooners won as many conference titles as all the other teams combined, I think it's likely the other way around. Those Lonestar egos don't like playing second fiddle.

[Shaka]

I'm not really attacking Viking, but seeing people's hopes getting up based on the BS he's throwing out there. I don't see why people would want to troll their fellow fans with something like this.

The BYU to the PAC12 thing may seem like BS initially but it can also make sense on some levels. If the PAC12 is in a rush to become the first of the super conferences putting aside two schools problems with BYU may not be as huge of a deal as everyone likes to think. Money will rule the day and one thing BYU can bring in is dough. SDSU, UNR, UNLV, BSU, FSU SJSU, and whoever else is in the west make far less sense than BYU in a future PAC16 both from money and competitive standpoints. It may be enough for the majority of the schools to tell Cal and Stanford to stick it. This is especially true if UT, OU, and OSU decide they want to package themselves with BYU for entrance.

[Pheidippides]

I'm not really attacking Viking, but seeing people's hopes getting up based on the BS he's throwing out there. I don't see why people would want to troll their fellow fans with something like this.

Son, this place is populated with the Who's Who of CB trolls. This is the freaking hall of fame. So I think we're capable of taking care of ourselves, although I thank you for your concern.

I personally don't think Viking is trolling anyway. He may be wrong or right, but he's wrong or right in good faith.

[tooblue]

Considering that Sooners won as many conference titles as all the other teams combined, I think it's likely the other way around. Those Lonestar egos don't like playing second fiddle.

Texas is the high maintenance buxom blonde who is totally full of herself. OU is just as pretty, more modest and down to earth and the girl you ultimately marry.

[CJF]

Texas is the high maintenance buxom blonde who is totally full of herself. OU is just as pretty, more modest and down to earth and the girl you ultimately marry.

I thought TCU was Ginger.