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  • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    Why mythical? I thought that applied to old-time, pre-BCS champions who played weak schedules. You apply it to all champs because there was no real playoff?
    Mythical because it is decided by polls.
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    • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      Over the past 20 years Colorado accomplished more than any other school in the B12, other than UT, OU and Nebraska. They also had the second or third largest TV market in the conference and had a tradition of overall athletic department success. Few schools in the Big 12 could bring to the table what Colorado did and it's demonstrated by the current state of the conference. If the Big 12 was unhappy with Colorado, it's a Big 12 problem and not a Colorado problem. Letting them go so easily was a sign of leadership incompetence, conference dysfunctionality and foreshadowed a mass exodus of top programs.

      It's also very telling that one of the best led conferences in CFB was happy to take what the Big 12 didn't want.
      Omaha 680 already responded but I though I'd add some data. If one looks at W-L records, it shows that Kansas St. had surpassed Colorado over the past 20 years when evaluating Big 8 teams. Since the Big 12 has only 15 seasons of data (it hasn't been around for 20 years), the data shows that Texas Tech and Texas A&M (in addition to KSU) have been more successful than Colorado. And Missouri would have passed Colorado this year in the Big 12 stats. Given the current trajectory, it would have been only a matter of time before Oklahoma St. surpassed Colorado in the Big 12. That would have left Colordo in the bottom third of the Big 12 with Kansas, Iowa St., and Baylor. BYU replacing Colorado would have improved the Big 12. Here's some data.

      Big 8 teams: 1991-2010 (20 years)
      Big 12: 1996-2010 (15 years)
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      • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
        That would have left Colordo in the bottom third of the Big 12 with Kansas, Iowa St., and Baylor.
        And even if Kansas was perennially in last place in football (they aren't), their hoops program makes them 10X more valuable to the Big 12 than Colorado.

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        • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
          And even if Kansas was perennially in last place in football (they aren't), their hoops program makes them 10X more valuable to the Big 12 than Colorado.
          I figured it out. The PAC just wanted it's fans to be able to visit Pearle Street on game day. Really, it's the ONLY thing CU brings to the table.

          In summary, the PAC wanted a championship game so they added two steaming piles of crap in order to get one. Good for them.

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          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            I know y'all were thinking this day would never come but it is free Longhorn Network weekend. Watch the LHN on the internet for free!

            Link: http://espn.go.com/longhornnetwork/#
            Boo! It gives you the audio but no video. Just stats.
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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Boo! It gives you the audio but no video. Just stats.
              lol @ LHN.

              Definitely worth losing Colorado, Nebraska, aTm, and Mizzou.
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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Boo! It gives you the audio but no video. Just stats.
                The game is on FX.
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                • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  lol @ LHN.

                  Definitely worth losing Colorado, Nebraska, aTm, and Mizzou.
                  Texas about to go down by three touchdowns. Ugh...
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                    The game is on FX.
                    I am working in my office today.
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                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Texas about to go down by three touchdowns. Ugh...
                      lol @ Texas!

                      ps knee was down.
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                      • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        lol @ LHN.

                        Definitely worth losing Colorado, Nebraska, aTm, and Mizzou.
                        BYUtv.

                        Definitely worth football independence and playing Idaho and NMSU in November.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          BYUtv.

                          Definitely worth football independence and playing Idaho and NMSU in November.
                          We agree that both Texas and BYU deserve lols and are morans.
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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            I am working in my office today.
                            One word: slingbox
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              We agree that both Texas and BYU deserve lols and are morans.
                              Dang. It sucks to be me.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                Dang. It sucks to be me.
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