The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

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  • Scorcho
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 835

    #2911
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    I'll give you a few benefits of having a 12 games PAC-16 Conference schedule:

    - you'd squeeze more money out of the networks, since you have more conference content.

    - a 12 game conference schedule would give you a "truer" East or West Champion than a 9 game schedule would.

    - you'd eliminate games such as SJSU @ Stanford, or MSU @ Utah, or Northern Arizona @ UA.

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    • Omaha 680
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 11180

      #2912
      Originally posted by Scorcho View Post
      I'll give you a few benefits of having a 12 games PAC-16 Conference schedule:

      - you'd squeeze more money out of the networks, since you have more conference content.

      - a 12 game conference schedule would give you a "truer" East or West Champion than a 9 game schedule would.

      - you'd eliminate games such as SJSU @ Stanford, or MSU @ Utah, or Northern Arizona @ UA.
      Did you read the Cuban blog post? What do you think of his argument that more content does not necessarily equal more TV money?

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69664

        #2913
        The thought of 16-team conferences makes me ill. I can't believe that we seem to be headed that way.
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        • UtahDan
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          • Nov 2008
          • 14496

          #2914
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          The thought of 16-team conferences makes me ill. I can't believe that we seem to be headed that way.
          I don't like it either. I think most of us who remember a 16 team WAC have a better concept of how much that sucks that most of the other folks who are talking about it. For me 12 is the max.

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          • Scorcho
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 835

            #2915
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            Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
            Did you read the Cuban blog post? What do you think of his argument that more content does not necessarily equal more TV money?
            if I simply look at Utah's OOC Schedule this year. Which is Montana St, BYU and Pitt vs. what it could be if there were three more conference games in a PAC-16, it's a no-brainer. 90% of Utah fans would choose the latter.

            Would USC rather play Minnesota or a conference game at Oklahoma St? Would UCLA rather play at Houston, or have a conference game against Texas Tech?

            If 12 conference games is too out of the box, then maybe you play 11 with one OOC game???

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69664

              #2916
              Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
              I don't like it either. I think most of us who remember a 16 team WAC have a better concept of how much that sucks that most of the other folks who are talking about it. For me 12 is the max.
              I think 9 is ideal and 12 is the max.
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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #2917
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                I think 9 is ideal and 12 is the max.
                I agree.
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                • Mormon Red Death
                  BYU Delenda Est
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8077

                  #2918
                  So now Texas may end up in the ACC?

                  Chip Brown

                  But if the Big 12 comes apart, another way for Texas to hold onto LHN may be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference, two sources close to the situation said Monday. ESPN holds the TV rights in the ACC and also owns and operates LHN.

                  But the ACC would only come into play if Oklahoma left for the Pac-12 and the Big 12 busted up, sources said.
                  I agree with whoever said it first. Chip Brown is putting out disinformation.
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                  • shoganai
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 513

                    #2919
                    Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                    So now Texas may end up in the ACC?

                    Chip Brown



                    I agree with whoever said it first. Chip Brown is putting out disinformation.
                    In my mind, this brings me back to the question I've been thinking of all along in the past month.

                    Originally I wondered... Is having a major home for its minor sports more important to Texas than maintaining the LHN? If the answer is no then they'll inevitably go independent.

                    But, I should simplify my question - is ANYTHING more important to Texas than maintaining the LHN? Again, if the answer is no then we should fully expect UT to try any and every option to avoid going to the Pac-12 or Big 10 for football. That includes seemingly ridiculous moves to a conference like the ACC.

                    And, again, I think independence is probably the inevitable end game. It's just a matter of time...

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #2920
                      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      So now Texas may end up in the ACC?

                      Chip Brown

                      I agree with whoever said it first. Chip Brown is putting out disinformation.
                      He seems to be the UT mouthpiece, and I wonder if he even knows whether what he puts out is true.
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                      • Pheidippides
                        Liberal Feminazi
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14759

                        #2921
                        Dammit! That's twice a supposed text to my wife turned into a post. I'm lucky everything I'm doing is harmless.
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                        • Color Me Badd Fan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 12519

                          #2922
                          Originally posted by shoganai View Post
                          In my mind, this brings me back to the question I've been thinking of all along in the past month.

                          Originally I wondered... Is having a major home for its minor sports more important to Texas than maintaining the LHN? If the answer is no then they'll inevitably go independent.

                          But, I should simplify my question - is ANYTHING more important to Texas than maintaining the LHN? Again, if the answer is no then we should fully expect UT to try any and every option to avoid going to the Pac-12 or Big 10 for football. That includes seemingly ridiculous moves to a conference like the ACC.

                          And, again, I think independence is probably the inevitable end game. It's just a matter of time...
                          Texas could probably park its other sports in the Big East if it wanted to. I would love seeing it happen since that would maybe mean BYU playing Texas quite a bit more. To be perfectly honest and people will think I'm nuts, but I wouldn't mind a continual home-away-"neutral" series with Texas. I know their fans will outnumber our fans 4-1 at Jerry's World, but if a routine is established, I could see that ratio going down. I think having that series with Texas over the long haul would establish some recruiting lines in Texas.

                          I'm not a huge fan of a pure 2-1 with Notre Dame.

                          BYU is going to be able to have a decent schedule the first 5-6 weeks of the season. The problem is the last half as many have noted. I hope BYU can establish some relationships with schools like Boise State and the service academies in the future. The series with Boise State looks like it is going to be played in September although not all the games have been scheduled yet. It appears as if the games with Notre Dame are happening in October and November. The Georgia Tech games are in October.

                          I'm in disagreement with others regarding schools like Houston and UCF. These are decent teams we can schedule around October. I think 1-1s with them are perfectly fine and much preferable to scheduling 1-1s with Wyoming, Colorado State, UNLV and New Mexico every year.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • Top Ute
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 2194

                            #2923
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                            He seems to be the UT mouthpiece, and I wonder if he even knows whether what he puts out is true.
                            At the moment he puts it out, it very well might be true. Trouble is, within 30 minutes it might not be. We should be accustomed to such fluidity in all of this. And at the same time, Chip's excessive usage of "unnamed sources" should be taken with a grain of salt.

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                            • Scorcho
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 835

                              #2924
                              ... ugh, that was painful to watch ...

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                              what was Fox Sports thinking?

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                              • LA Ute
                                Receiver of Memory
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19512

                                #2925
                                Interesting Fox Sports piece on Utah's step up to the AQ world:



                                It paints a pretty accurate picture of the challenges and opportunities. As a loyal alum, I liked this:

                                All along the downtown streets here, lampposts are adorned with banners welcoming the Utes to the Pac-12. Applications at Utah have spiked 16 percent since the announcement last summer that the school would be joining the Pac-12 — something that could often be attributed to a slumping economy, except that other schools in the state have stayed flat. At the Salt Lake City Tribune, there has been a 200 percent jump in page views for Utah-related content from a year ago.
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                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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