The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[myboynoah]

Today's weather report suggests that the PAC10 might survive. If I were in the Larry Scott Position of Great Genius, I would (A) stand pat at 10 and play a full round robin 9-game schedule AND (B) have the champs of the Pac-12 and the ACC play in a Snoop-Biggie/West Coast, East Coast prize fight.

Odds are you are only getting one team into the playoffs from the two conferences anyway, so why not make it official! Plus, the SHOWDOWN could be a real money maker in its own right. The only real downside is if the ACC and PAC10 have two legit playoff contenders (say, Clemson and Utah) and then one loses the SHOWDOWN (say, Clemson). But I doubt the ACC and the PAC have 2 of the best 4 teams in the country any time soon.

BYU and the BIG XII might not like it, but there doesn't seem to be much consideration of others going into these decisions.

Canzano: Pac-12 getting itself back out there after being burned

Bob Thompson, the former president of Fox Sports Networks, told me on Tuesday that a potential Pac-12 partnership with the ACC captures TV markets that include 27.7 million households. By comparison, the Big 12 television markets have only 14 million households.

Simple math:

B12 - 14 million per 12 schools = 1.7 million per school
P12/ACC - 27.7 million per 25 schools = 1.1 million per school

How is that more valuable that the B12 per school?

Why a “loose partnership” and not a formal merging of the ACC and Pac-12 into one of these fashionable “super” conferences?

I suspect that’s due to the ACC’s current grant of rights agreement. It runs through 2036 and marries the conference members to ESPN. If the ACC opens the grant of rights, it runs the risk that one or more conference members might bolt to the SEC or Big Ten.

How can you commit your schools to 1-2 games per year across the country and increasing/decreasing revenue without opening up that ACC grant of rights agreement? This makes no sense.

This Canzano guy seems kind of like a dumb dumb.

[BlueK]

Which is probably what college football deserves.

The p12 is on the verge of disintegration, the Utes won't have anywhere cool to go and I'm not a sports fan anyway so let's burn everything down. Classic.

[myboynoah]

Oh my, how the mighty have fallen.

More card playing by the pac.

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[SeattleUte]

Canzano: Pac-12 getting itself back out there after being burned



Simple math:

B12 - 14 million per 12 schools = 1.7 million per school
P12/ACC - 27.7 million per 25 schools = 1.1 million per school

How is that more valuable that the B12 per school?



How can you commit your schools to 1-2 games per year across the country and increasing/decreasing revenue without opening up that ACC grant of rights agreement? This makes no sense.

This Canzano guy seems kind of like a dumb dumb.

I think you're missing the synergies.

[myboynoah]

I think you're missing the synergies.

I agree, I am. This is way over my head out there in the clouds.

So it appears Canzano is the Dick Harmon of UO athletics. Kind of has a HB Arnett vibe to him.

[Mormon Red Death]

ACC - PAC12 Deal with ESPN rumor/discussion

The proposal, still in its infancy, heavily involves the ESPN-owned ACC Network. Under the plan, the ACC Network—or a renamed entity combining the two leagues—will have exclusive rights to broadcast Pac-12 games to West Coast households through ESPN cable providers. The agreement is not a merger or consolidation of the leagues but is instead built around a media rights agreement with the worldwide leader in sports

[Omaha 680]

ACC - PAC12 Deal with ESPN rumor/discussion

Seems like the best case scenario for Utah at this point but also just a band-aid. As long as the two premier programs left in the league and Stanford have options for the Big Ten or the SEC, the league is inherently unstable as presently constituted. The Arizona schools, Colorado, and the PNW States will rightly be living in fear that they will be left out when the conference ultimately dissolves. The only way to stabilize is formal expansion with teams who are committed to be in the PAC, which the Big 12 demonstrated last year.

[Moliere]

Seems like the best case scenario for Utah at this point but also just a band-aid. As long as the two premier programs left in the league and Stanford have options for the Big Ten or the SEC, the league is inherently unstable as presently constituted. The Arizona schools, Colorado, and the PNW States will rightly be living in fear that they will be left out when the conference ultimately dissolves. The only way to stabilize is formal expansion with teams who are committed to be in the PAC, which the Big 12 demonstrated last year.

Yep, once the ACC GoR is up you can bet on Clemson and NC bolting and maybe Virginia and others. Then what? Does the PAC12 sweep up the ACC leftovers? Highly doubt that since the big12 would be in a better position to do that. Then the est of the pac would be begging anyone to take them and there likely won’t be any room for middling football programs.

[Uncle Ted]

Seems like the best case scenario for Utah at this point but also just a band-aid. As long as the two premier programs left in the league and Stanford have options for the Big Ten or the SEC, the league is inherently unstable as presently constituted. The Arizona schools, Colorado, and the PNW States will rightly be living in fear that they will be left out when the conference ultimately dissolves. The only way to stabilize is formal expansion with teams who are committed to be in the PAC, which the Big 12 demonstrated last year.

Well that alliance between the Pac 12, ACC, and Big 10 worked out great, didn't it? Both the ACC and Pac 12 would remain very poachable, it seems. ND could go to the B1G at any time and then the anchors of the ACC to the SEC. Then there is the fact that the PAC 12 is a lot less valuable without USC and UCLA. Would ESPN want to come to the table with more money for this? Why would any network be interested in ponying up more money if the conference(s) it's paying is/are on unstable ground? ESPN should be able to get the Pac 12-2 for a bargain by itself, if they can be convinced to keep the remaining gang of 10 together.

Expansion of the PAC... with San Diego St, SMU and Boise St. Maybe throw in Colorado St too. That should push some of the Pac 12-2 teams out the door.

[Uncle Ted]

Smoke that the P12 is going away... It seems Utah and some other P12 schools have been calling Craig Thompson:

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"We've taken a number of calls this week. There are some PAC-12 schools interested in joining our conference."

[Jeff Lebowski]

This P10/ACC alliance sounds like a terrible idea born of desperation.

[myboynoah]

Wilner just flailing about.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Wilner just flailing about.

He is in danger of losing his job or becoming irrelevant. Can you blame him?

[myboynoah]

He is in danger of losing his job or becoming irrelevant. Can you blame him?

I know. He's had a pretty sweet gig all these years and now his baby is evaporating in front of him. Being the San Jose Sharks beat reporter just doesn't compare.

[Applejack]

Yeah, he’s Wilner is the true victim in all of this.

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WAIT!!!! What about bill Walton?!?!?!!!! Has anybody checked on him?!?!?!?