The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[BigFatMeanie]

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. I followed up my time there with a one-year stint at East -- right when Josh Grant was a junior.

We went to the same junior high and high school at the same time.

[BigFatMeanie]

For reasons not clear to me, I still remember the Clayton school song.

On Clayton Cougars, we sign thy praise
Cougars together they banner will raise
We will endeavor as the years go by
To uphold the ideals of Clayton Junior High

On red and white, our banners fly true

...
Can't remember the rest.

[LA Ute]

On Clayton Cougars, we sign thy praise
Cougars together they banner will raise
We will endeavor as the years go by
To uphold the ideals of Clayton Junior High

On red and white, our banners fly true

...
Can't remember the rest.

That's as much as I recall. Was Mr. Papadakis still a PE teacher when you got there?

[BigFatMeanie]

That's as much as I recall. Was Mr. Papadakis still a PE teacher when you got there?

Yup, Mr. Papadakis and Mr. Newbold. We were in high school when Papadakis died. I graduated from East in 88. Same year (I think) as Tooblue who went to Highland. I didn't know Tooblue personally but we knew several of the same people.

[All-American]

Whatever makes you guys feel better.

That's not what I'm getting at. I'd have expected them to exaggerate the quality of the team that beat them. Sour grapes seems to have prevailed instead. Looks like the same thing happened at Oregon, whom Boise State beat, but who beat Utah.

[Blueintheface]

Yup, Mr. Papadakis and Mr. Newbold. We were in high school when Papadakis died. I graduated from East in 88. Same year (I think) as Tooblue who went to Highland. I didn't know Tooblue personally but we knew several of the same people.

Did you know Biff Linebaugh?

[BigFatMeanie]

Did you know Biff Linebaugh?

Yup - same year as me. Although I "knew of her" is probably a better way to say it. She was in the "cool" crowd and I was just another faceless nerd wishing I could be popular like the cool kids.

[LA Ute]

Yup, Mr. Papadakis and Mr. Newbold. We were in high school when Papadakis died. I graduated from East in 88. Same year (I think) as Tooblue who went to Highland. I didn't know Tooblue personally but we knew several of the same people.

I really liked Dean Papadakis. It sounds like he died fairly young. What happened?

Tooblue a Highland Ram? Who'd a-thunk it?

[BigFatMeanie]

I really liked Dean Papadakis. It sounds like he died fairly young. What happened?

Tooblue a Highland Ram? Who'd a-thunk it?

heart attack

[KillerDog]

Fascinating information yesterday. It is common knowledge that the Pac-10 didn't want BYU and didn't think BYU fit with who and what they are. What is not common knowledge is that BYU's Board of Trustees made it clear to Cecil Samuelson last spring that the BOT would not sign off on a conference change for BYU from the MWC to the Pac-10. They believe a move to a conference can change a school and a move to the Pac-10 would put pressure on BYU to be something the BOT doesn't want them to be. In short, not only did Cal not want BYU but BYU didn't want Cal.

[SeattleUte]

Fascinating information yesterday. It is common knowledge that the Pac-10 didn't want BYU and didn't think BYU fit with who and what they are. What is not common knowledge is that BYU's Board of Trustees made it clear to Cecil Samuelson last spring that the BOT would not sign off on a conference change for BYU from the MWC to the Pac-10. They believe a move to a conference can change a school and a move to the Pac-10 would put pressure on BYU to be something the BOT doesn't want them to be. In short, not only did Cal not want BYU but BYU didn't want Cal.

BYU made the decision a long time ago.

[UtahDan]

Fascinating information yesterday. It is common knowledge that the Pac-10 didn't want BYU and didn't think BYU fit with who and what they are. What is not common knowledge is that BYU's Board of Trustees made it clear to Cecil Samuelson last spring that the BOT would not sign off on a conference change for BYU from the MWC to the Pac-10. They believe a move to a conference can change a school and a move to the Pac-10 would put pressure on BYU to be something the BOT doesn't want them to be. In short, not only did Cal not want BYU but BYU didn't want Cal.

Wow, so I guess the BYU board of trustees is bigoted too. BYU didn't want the Pac 10 because of religious reasons. Astonishing.

[Blueintheface]

Wow, so I guess the BYU board of trustees is bigoted too. BYU didn't want the Pac 10 because of religious reasons. Astonishing.

[UtahDan]

Fair enough, but it isn't any more absurd that the accusation of bigotry on the part of the Pac 10. The two things were never compatible from the perspective of either.

[beelzebabette]

Fair enough, but it isn't any more absurd that the accusation of bigotry on the part of the Pac 10. The two things were never compatible from the perspective of either.

Just $.02 here, but you and LA are giving the "absurd" perspective more legs here lately than any BYU fan.