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Originally posted by Eddie Jones
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In my experience, all LDS people who have never lived in Utah are BYU fans to some degree. -
Non, no, you're messing up the narrative. Mormons flock to any stadium or arena where BYU is playing and all 6 million Mormons in the USA watch whenever BYU plays on TV.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
(Whoops. Here's something else that upsets that narrative.)“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. Sure, they cheer for their Alma Mater but they also like to see BYU do well. Sort of like secretly thinking that success in sport will somehow bring the church more mainstream notariaty. Not exactly the active fanbase that increses much revenue but fans nonetheless.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick FavorsComment
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I've never understood the Kansas to Pac-10 theory. There is no way that UCLA lets Kansas come into the Pac-10. Adding that fight for recruits and conference championships in basketball would be brutal for UCLA at this point in their history. Arizona would be of a like mind. Kansas adds little except basketball prestige and that would cost more than the benefit. Frankly, Utah is a better fit than Kansas for the Pac-10.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostComment
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"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick FavorsComment
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At least people know that BYU exists. Most people in the south can't remember if Alex Smith played for Utah or Utah State.Originally posted by LA Ute View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Using that line of thinking, why does the PAC 10 want Texas? Are USC and ??? (quick give me another football power in the PAC 10) afraid of playing them for the conference championship? Does the ACC wish they didn't have Duke, NC, WF, etc. in the same conference? I'd think UCLA would be stoked to have some competition in the PAC 10, especially considering the abysmal basketball season that just happened in teh PAC 10.Originally posted by KillerDog View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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You skipped the irrelevant Utah smack heirarchy of cold fussion and went straight to Utah State. Slight breech of ettiquette there.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick FavorsComment
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Right, any conference expansion discussion which includes conference a doesn't want team b because they're afraid they will dominate is always ridiculous.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostComment
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That I would agree with.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick FavorsComment
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Basketball revenue is much smaller than football revenue. The Pac-10 schools benefit more from adding a top football program than they do from adding another top basketball program. That's the main difference.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostComment
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No they didn't. And only time will tell (if this is all that happens with the Pac ___) whether this would be a single or double for the Pac ___, though I think it would be a single (which is better than an out).Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
The Pac 10 would increase its footprint, but it would have two more mouths to feed and at least one of them (Colorado) probably wouldn't be able to pull its fair share, at least initially. If Colorado can't deliver more than 43k fans to its home games in the Big 12, there's no reason to expect they'll do any better in the Pac 10. And if only 43k fans are showing up to their games, do people in the Denver area really care about CU, how many TV sets are they really delivering?
For the sake of argument, let's say the new TV contract with 10 teams would have only been $100 million per year, will Utah and Colorado up that amount to $120 million? Maybe, maybe not. So, I say it's a single since the Pac 12 would be able to have a championship game in football and generate revenue that route.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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It would be easier to follow etiquette if SU would post his hierarchy of Utah smack as often as he posts his hierarchy of possible expansion scenarios.Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
FTR, this came from an actual conversation with rabid fans of both Alabama and Auburn during which discussion we also discussed the naissance of the phrase "war eagle""Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Originally posted by KillerDog View PostThat wasn't your original argument. You talked about fighting for recruits and prestige. Also, Kansas' football program puts more butts in seats than Utah's and Kansas is in a bigger tv market. Neither Utah nor Kansas are natural rivals of Colordao but they are both about the same distance from Boulder with Utah getting the edge by being closer to other PAC 10 teams.Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
The only real issue is travel, well and the fact that Kansas is uglier than Oklahoma....."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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