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  • MarkGrace
    Grooveshark dick tease
    • Dec 2008
    • 31546

    #17596
    Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
    Other than Burks per 36 numbers at age 22 being nearly identical to those of Roy at age 22.
    Oh brother. If I had a dollar for every dumb per 36 comparison. Burks is good, I like him. He'll just never been in Roy's league as a player. Feel free to bookmark this post if you need to.
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    • BGRTHNUMEGO
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 3670

      #17597
      Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
      lol. If that happens the Jazz might actually be good. But unfortunately he's not very close to Brandon Roy.
      I didn't know Roy was 22 years old as a rook. I thought he played 3 yrs at Washington. Burks was nearly the exact same age last year as Roy was as a rookie (Burks was born on July 20th, Roy on July 23rd).

      Clearly Burks is as good as Roy. Because Corbin.

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      • BGRTHNUMEGO
        Junior Member
        • May 2010
        • 3670

        #17598
        Locke tweeted earlier that Burke will likely be the only guy in the Jazz rotation that is under 6'6".

        And no Corbin.

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        • smokymountainrain
          Impressive Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 22593

          #17599
          Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
          Oh brother. If I had a dollar for every dumb per 36 comparison. Burks is good, I like him. He'll just never been in Roy's league as a player. Feel free to bookmark this post if you need to.
          No reason to bookmark, we're already there.

          In 28 minutes, Burks averaged 14 ppg on 46% FGs, 35% 3pt on 10 shots, 3 rebs, 3 assists
          In 36 minutes, Roy averaged 17 ppg on 46% FGs, 37% 3pt on 13 shots, 4 rebs, 4 assists.

          You are either romanticizing Roy's production or underrating Burks or both, because even with Burks playing less minutes, those numbers are close.
          I'm like LeBron James.
          -mpfunk

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          • MartyFunkhouser
            Disciple of RNGesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 18717

            #17600
            Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
            Locke tweeted earlier that Burke will likely be the only guy in the Jazz rotation that is under 6'6".

            And no Corbin.
            I get the impression that you are not impressed with Tyrone Corbin's coaching abilities.
            As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
            --Kendrick Lamar

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            • MarkGrace
              Grooveshark dick tease
              • Dec 2008
              • 31546

              #17601
              Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
              I didn't know Roy was 22 years old as a rook. I thought he played 3 yrs at Washington. Burks was nearly the exact same age last year as Roy was as a rookie (Burks was born on July 20th, Roy on July 23rd).

              Clearly Burks is as good as Roy. Because Corbin.
              Yeah, he played four years. He actual entered his senior year as a 2nd rounder on a lot of draft boards, and then he just killed it his senior year. Looking at his stats and he went from playing 24 mins and scoring 12.8 ppg as a junior to 32 mpg and 20.2 ppg as a senior.

              I'd be thrilled if we had the next Brandon Roy somewhere on our roster. Like I said above, it'd make me much more optimistic that we were a few years away from being a good team. But we don't.
              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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              • BGRTHNUMEGO
                Junior Member
                • May 2010
                • 3670

                #17602
                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                No reason to bookmark, we're already there.

                In 28 minutes, Burks averaged 14 ppg on 46% FGs, 35% 3pt on 10 shots, 3 rebs, 3 assists
                In 36 minutes, Roy averaged 17 ppg on 46% FGs, 37% 3pt on 13 shots, 4 rebs, 4 assists.

                You are either romanticizing Roy's production or underrating Burks or both, because even with Burks playing less minutes, those numbers are close.
                And Roy's 3pt% dropped to 34 in his 2nd season.

                But 18 PER as a rook, 19.4 in his 2nd year. Poise, presence, and fabulous play making.

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                • MarkGrace
                  Grooveshark dick tease
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 31546

                  #17603
                  Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                  No reason to bookmark, we're already there.

                  In 28 minutes, Burks averaged 14 ppg on 46% FGs, 35% 3pt on 10 shots, 3 rebs, 3 assists
                  In 36 minutes, Roy averaged 17 ppg on 46% FGs, 37% 3pt on 13 shots, 4 rebs, 4 assists.

                  You are either romanticizing Roy's production or underrating Burks or both, because even with Burks playing less minutes, those numbers are close.
                  Roy peaked as a 24 PER player, which is a borderline MVP candidate. It's also well into AS range, and he obviously made three AS games in a row until injuries wrecked his career. He averaged 23/5/5 with a 57.3 TS% as a primary option. He was a leader who took his team into the playoffs and hit countless clutch shots. The per 36 comparison is cute (I remember when we did this with Ronnie Brewer and Gerald Wallace...lol), but he's nowhere near Roy right now. He won't get there either.
                  So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                  • smokymountainrain
                    Impressive Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22593

                    #17604
                    Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                    Roy peaked as a 24 PER player, which is a borderline MVP candidate. It's also well into AS range, and he obviously made three AS games in a row until injuries wrecked his career. He averaged 23/5/5 with a 57.3 TS% as a primary option. He was a leader who took his team into the playoffs and hit countless clutch shots. The per 36 comparison is cute (I remember when we did this with Ronnie Brewer and Gerald Wallace...lol), but he's nowhere near Roy right now. He won't get there either.
                    lol. I compared actual numbers. I never argued Burks was close to Roy at his peak. Burks isn't close to himself at his peak either. Don't be silly.
                    I'm like LeBron James.
                    -mpfunk

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                    • MarkGrace
                      Grooveshark dick tease
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 31546

                      #17605
                      Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                      lol. I compared actual numbers. I never argued Burks was close to Roy at his peak. Burks isn't close to himself at his peak either. Don't be silly.
                      The actual numbers comparison was worse than your limited p36. But at any rate, Burks so far has not been and never will be close to Roy's league. You can bookmark this one as well.
                      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                      • smokymountainrain
                        Impressive Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22593

                        #17606
                        Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                        The actual numbers comparison was worse than your limited p36. But at any rate, Burks so far has not been and never will be close to Roy's league. You can bookmark this one as well.
                        I'm not gonna bookmark shit, you big jerk!
                        I'm like LeBron James.
                        -mpfunk

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                        • Blueintheface
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 15382

                          #17607
                          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                          I'm not gonna bookmark shit, you big jerk!
                          gross
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • MarkGrace
                            Grooveshark dick tease
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 31546

                            #17608
                            Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                            I'm not gonna bookmark shit, you big jerk!
                            Would bookmark this shit if it was in your house and not public?
                            So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                            • smokymountainrain
                              Impressive Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22593

                              #17609
                              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              Would bookmark this shit if it was in your house and not public?
                              Maybe. I'll think about it when I get home.
                              I'm like LeBron James.
                              -mpfunk

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                              • Blueintheface
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 15382

                                #17610
                                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                                Maybe. I'll think about it when I get home.
                                I can never wait that long. #sjbh
                                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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