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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25222

    #14821
    Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
    Please tell me he's not destined to be Jamal Crawford his whole career. I hate Crawford. I've always hated him. I hate that he gets way too much attention and way too much playing time for throwing up horrible shots every night just because some nights he gets lucky and some of them fall. Crawford can be an absolute monster some nights, and then others he might as well being wearing the other team's uniform.

    I get the feeling that is what we're going to get out of Burks. Some nights the refs will call it when he gets bumped and a few of his wobbly attempts will drop, and he'll put up a sparkling stat line. Then the next night the refs won't be blowing their whistles, his jump shot base will look different on every jumper he takes, and while he'll get 8.7 from the Russian judge for shot difficulty he won't score any actual points for technical merit.
    Sadly, Burks is on record stating that he models his game after Jamal Crawford.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • BGRTHNUMEGO
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 3670

      #14822
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      Sadly, Burks is on record stating that he models his game after Jamal Crawford.
      Is this some sort of sick joke?

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      • smokymountainrain
        Impressive Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 22593

        #14823
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        Sadly, Burks is on record stating that he models his game after Jamal Crawford.
        He has said this and I agree with BGR that it would be awful if Burks becomes a Jamal Crawford clone.

        Having said that, I just don't see him as a Crawford type. First, Crawford is a shooter. That's what he does, it's who he is. Hot and cold. Doesn't defend.

        Burks would prefer to attack the basket, get lay ups and go to the FT line. Also, and this may be the apologist in me, he is more than a willing passer and he has an interest in going to the glass. Also, I feel like he cares and is aggressive defensively.

        If we're talking ceiling or potential, he just so much more Harden than Crawford. He'll never be as good as Harden, but he plays more like Harden than Crawford despite what he says.

        Right now, he needs to figure how to hit a jump shot. Since he's been with the Jazz, he's never been as bad shooting the ball as he has in the last nine games.
        I'm like LeBron James.
        -mpfunk

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        • BGRTHNUMEGO
          Junior Member
          • May 2010
          • 3670

          #14824
          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
          Right now, he needs to figure how to hit a jump shot. Since he's been with the Jazz, he's never been as bad shooting the ball as he has in the last nine games.
          His jumper looks different every time he takes it. Ray Allen says the two most important aspects of his jump shot are getting his feet right and then releasing it from the same point of his jump each time. Burks is so variable on those two things, and then compounds the issue by shooting such a flat shot. I do hope that at the very least we'll see him bump his FT% up to the high 70's this season.

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          • smokymountainrain
            Impressive Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22593

            #14825
            Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
            His jumper looks different every time he takes it. Ray Allen says the two most important aspects of his jump shot are getting his feet right and then releasing it from the same point of his jump each time. Burks is so variable on those two things, and then compounds the issue by shooting such a flat shot. I do hope that at the very least we'll see him bump his FT% up to the high 70's this season.
            I think with consistent minutes and getting to the line 5-6 times a game on a regular basis, he'll be around 80%.
            I'm like LeBron James.
            -mpfunk

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            • Donuthole
              Official Outgayer
              • Nov 2008
              • 25222

              #14826
              Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
              Is this some sort of sick joke?
              October fools! Wait. Dang.
              Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

              There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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              • Blueintheface
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 15382

                #14827
                I like Alec's game and hope that in 2013 he doesn't think emulating a chucker is a great idea. I think he's much closer to Harden than Crawford (as SMR said).
                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                • cougjunkie
                  *Banned*
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 23223

                  #14828
                  Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                  I like Alec's game and hope that in 2013 he doesn't think emulating a chucker is a great idea. I think he's much closer to Harden than Crawford (as SMR said).
                  You are crazy. Crawford is his ceiling. He will never touch Harden.
                  *Banned*

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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382

                    #14829
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    You are crazy. Crawford is his ceiling. He will never touch Harden.
                    Stop calling me Shirley. I think you know this already but I'll clarify; Burks will never touch Harden, but his style-of-play will.
                    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                    • MarkGrace
                      Grooveshark dick tease
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 31546

                      #14830
                      Bit annoyed at g-time's camp on this one but glad the jazz didn't cave.
                      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 6000

                        #14831
                        Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                        Bit annoyed at g-time's camp on this one but glad the jazz didn't cave.
                        they will end up paying more for him in the summer.

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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #14832
                          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                          they will end up paying more for him in the summer.
                          I think so too.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • Donuthole
                            Official Outgayer
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 25222

                            #14833
                            Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                            they will end up paying more for him in the summer.
                            More than what? What were his demands as of yesterday?
                            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                            • Jacob
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6801

                              #14834
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              they will end up paying more for him in the summer.
                              I agree with MG, glad the Jazz didn't cave. There is too much risk to pay more than 10m per year right now. Hayward could have a major injury. He could look like he's destined to be a 2nd or 3rd fiddle (likely) and his 3 pt % will likely drop below 40% due to his new role. In that case, the Jazz make it clear that they will match any offer, and he may not even get one a la Pekovic with Minnesota this summer.. With the risk involved, even if the Jazz have to pay an extra 5-8 million over 4 years next summer, this is the smart move. Paul George made his money in the playoffs. Hayward won't have the same opportunity to impress. He'll not sniff the All-Start game, so he won't get a Cousins/George type offer. He is almost certain to get a Tyreke Evans offer, or better, but I'm sure they offered him that much already. Fortunately, Doc Rivers won't have any cap space!

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                              • The_Douger
                                Athletic Supporter
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 5413

                                #14835
                                Is he really worth all that much? Until he shows us he's better than a third banana, I don't think you cave on this.
                                Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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