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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25228

    #451
    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
    I'm not going to even disagree with this statement. Utah basketball is not a highly desirable job right now in relation to our conference mates. It has potential to be a good job, but it isn't right now.

    So we can agree that Utah is a better job than Washington St and Oregon St. Here are Washington St and Oregon St's coaches.
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    Both of them had previous head coaching experience when they were hired. Ken Bone had gone to the NCAA tournament twice with Portland St. Bone also was an assistant for 3 years at Washington. In short, Ken Bone had substantially more experience when Washington St hired him.

    Craig Robinson is kind of a meh candidate but still has a better resume than Rice.
    In light of this, I can completely understand why you want to avoid the risk of hiring an career assistant. Why would you, when you can hire someone much safer and secure a place towards the bottom the conference? Yes, safe seems to be the logical choice.
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    • U-Ute
      Non member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2071

      #452
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      [COLOR=DarkOrchid]He understands and runs an offensive system that, even with the hodgepodge of JC players and rag-tag recruits currently in Utah's system, would have Utah as a top-3 team in the MWC this year and would probably make them a NCAA tourney team. Top-3 in the MWC would make them a top-2 team in the PAC-10 this year.
      Calling an offensive set is much different than being the HC. BYU football fans should be painfully aware of this.

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      • Donuthole
        Official Outgayer
        • Nov 2008
        • 25228

        #453
        Originally posted by U-Ute View Post
        Calling an offensive set is much different than being the HC. BYU football fans should be painfully aware of this.
        Yes. Sadly, we chose wrong when we went with the guy who had head coaching experience. We had much better success the next time when we hired a guy who only had experience calling defenses up to that point.
        Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

        There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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        • Goatnapper'96
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10918

          #454
          Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
          Yes. Sadly, we chose wrong when we went with the guy who had head coaching experience. We had much better success the next time when we hired a guy who only had experience calling defenses up to that point.
          Ergo the role of luck. Nobody in their right mind could have expected things to have worked out as well as they have with both Mendenhall and Rose. In fact I'll be that back then even LA Ute! was feeling confident enough to take a few shots at the BYU wrt its future prospects for success.
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          • LA Ute
            Receiver of Memory
            • Nov 2008
            • 19512

            #455
            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
            Ergo the role of luck. Nobody in their right mind could have expected things to have worked out as well as they have with both Mendenhall and Rose. In fact I'll be that back then even LA Ute! was feeling confident enough to take a few shots at the BYU wrt its future prospects for success.
            I don't recall, but I am pretty confident that I was beyond magnanimous in expressing my views.
            Last edited by LA Ute; 03-09-2011, 04:13 PM.
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            • MartyFunkhouser
              Disciple of RNGesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 18713

              #456
              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              In light of this, I can completely understand why you want to avoid the risk of hiring an career assistant. Why would you, when you can hire someone much safer and secure a place towards the bottom the conference? Yes, safe seems to be the logical choice.
              I'm starting to agree with your hire the least qualified candidate approach. In light of that, I'm still not supportive of a Dave Rice hire. I think we need to go less qualified and look at high school coaches. We also really need to start looking into dominant Junior Jazz coaches.
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              • Viking
                Banned
                • Jun 2009
                • 6470

                #457
                Pat Knight. He is perfect for the U. Wannabe

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                • Jarid in Cedar
                  CS Institutional Memory
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 13234

                  #458
                  Originally posted by Viking View Post
                  Pat Knight. He is perfect for the U. Wannabe
                  "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                  "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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                  -Rick Majerus

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                  • SeattleUte
                    Faith crisis consultant
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 20837

                    #459
                    Originally posted by Viking View Post
                    Pat Knight. He is perfect for the U. Wannabe
                    lol signed fan of a WCC school that has won one NCAA game in 20 years (in 2 OT against a last in SEC team). Stupid fans always think that this snapshot in time means anything. We've been to Final fours galore and had two undefeated seasons in football in thelast 7 years, beaten Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and we're in an AQ/Major conference. The whole reason we're pissed at Boylen is we aren't a mid-major, etc.

                    You're projecting your own insecurity.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • Viking
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 6470

                      #460
                      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      lol signed fan of a WCC school that has won one NCAA game in 20 years (in 2 OT against a last in SEC team). Stupid fans always think that this snapshot in time means anything. We've been to Final fours galore and had two undefeated seasons in football in thelast 7 years, beaten Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and we're in an AQ/Major conference. The whole reason we're pissed at Boylen is we aren't a mid-major, etc.

                      You're projecting your own insecurity.
                      You are soooo predictable. Easiest troll ever.

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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #461
                        Originally posted by Viking View Post
                        You are soooo predictable. Easiest troll ever.
                        You were serious but you have no substantive response. Idiot zoobie.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • Viking
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 6470

                          #462
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          You were serious but you have no substantive response. Idiot zoobie.
                          Calling me a zoobie is like calling you a faithful LDS, sweetheart.

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                          • Viking
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 6470

                            #463
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            lol signed fan of a WCC school that has won one NCAA game in 20 years (in 2 OT against a last in SEC team). Stupid fans always think that this snapshot in time means anything. We've been to Final fours galore and had two undefeated seasons in football in thelast 7 years, beaten Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, and we're in an AQ/Major conference. The whole reason we're pissed at Boylen is we aren't a mid-major, etc.

                            You're projecting your own insecurity.
                            remind me of your review of 20-year history the next time you accuse us of relying on our multi-decade history in football.

                            douchebag.

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #464
                              Originally posted by Viking View Post
                              remind me of your review of 20-year history the next time you accuse us of relying on our multi-decade history in football.

                              douchebag.
                              We went to the Sweet 16 in 2006
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Viking
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 6470

                                #465
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                We went to the Sweet 16 in 2006
                                Should I be impressed?? You guys are in the PAC10 and eat "mid-major" for breakfast. I expect national championships, not sweet 16 appearances.

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