BYU Basketball 24-25-Bring out the Jelly!

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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10918

    #286
    With the addition of Mboup the roster for next year is complete. Here are the 13 scholarship players:

    1.) Elijah Crawford- FR
    2.) Kanon Catchings- FR
    3.) Egor Demin- FR
    4.) Brody Kozlowski- FR
    5.) Khadim Mboup-FR
    6.) Dallin Hall- JR
    7.) Dawson Baker- JR
    8.) Richie Saunders- JR
    9.) Keiba Keita- JR
    10.) Fous Traore- SR
    11.) Mawot Mag- SR
    12.) Trevin Knell- SR
    13.) Trey Stewart- SR

    I expect the following to play:
    1.) Dallin Hall, Elijah Crawford
    2.) Dawson Baker, Trevin Knell
    3.) Egor Demin, Richie Saunders
    4.) Kanon Catchings, Mawot Mag
    5.) Fous Traore, Keiba Keita

    I firmly believe Hall and Demin will start. I am not sure after that. Kozlowski, Mboup and Trey Stewart will only play in case of heavy foul trouble and injury. I think Kozlowski is likely going to play the most of these 3 as a 3rd 4 and reserve wing. I think Mboup, while talented, being younger needs a year to physically mature and grow up a bit-I think this will be a developmental year for him to work on his body, adjust to living in the US and develop his skills. I doubt Trey plays much as BYU can use Baker and Demin at PG if needed-in fact Demin might be the back up to Hall as is and Crawford might be the #3 PG. Time will tell but I tend to think BYU will play Crawford to develop him and because he is a really good 3 point shooter. I have no clue how minutes will be dispersed by my guess is of the top 10 Hall plays the most at about 28-30 mpg and Crawford plays the least at about 10. Rest will will hover 15-24.

    I like the roster demographics:
    6 LDS-5 RMs
    7 non-LDS
    7 Black/African descent
    6 White kids with 1 of those a East European.
    2 guys who are pure 5's-albeit one is a bit undersized.
    4 guys who are both wings/power forwards (Mag, Kozlowski, Catchings, Mboup)-obviously Young wants to defend similar to NBA and how Pope wanted to defend with ability to switch and playing a roster where many can defend multiple positions.
    3 pure points guards (Stewart, Hall, Crawford)
    2 combo guards (Baker, Demin)
    2 potential one and dones. I am convinced Demin starts but I am interested how it breaks down with Catchings. I like Mag and I stand by my opinion nobody on the team does anything as well as Mag defends. How the one and dones works with BYU intrigues me enormously. How many Young will want on the team? How many can BYU land? From what is said about recruits and the landing of Demin and Catchings, and even Crawford, indicates at this point in time recruits are buying what BYU is selling. How Demin and Catchings do is going to go a long way in affirming that faith or causing a faith crisis. It is a high risk-high reward situation and very new territory for us. I am glad Young is a pro coach because he has very pro decisions and scenarios to work through this next year.

    It is going to be a fun and interesting year.
    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
    -General George S. Patton

    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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    • Pelado
      Bald not naked
      • Sep 2010
      • 21084

      #287
      Nice write-up!
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #288
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • Pelado
          Bald not naked
          • Sep 2010
          • 21084

          #289
          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
          Damn. That's cool.
          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
          - Goatnapper'96

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          • SteelBlue
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 8175

            #290


            Sleepers breaks down this year's class in their always entertaining style. They have BYU ranked #9 in their top 21 recruiting classes.

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            • SteelBlue
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 8175

              #291
              BYU Guard Egor Demin Gets 5-Star Rating From 247 Sports (msn.com)

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              • Pelado
                Bald not naked
                • Sep 2010
                • 21084

                #292
                Huh, so the Russian really wasn't even rated yet? But, but...

                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                Also BYU isn't 12 it's 25. You have to count the transfers. And the difference between 15 and 60, really, who knows. The margins are razor thin, these ratings are totally subjective in basketball, and winning is mostly about coaching if you're in that range. And obviously they're counting the Russian or these rankings really are nonsensical. Maybe they are.

                Utah has a sophomore transfer who was no. 39 last year and went to Baylor. So really, who knows?

                Sorry but you know I'm a natural skeptic. I've seen this movie many times before. Usually it's not a happy ending. Most coaches fail. 2 percent succeed to fans' expectations.

                Washington and Georgetown have better classes than BYU and I'm not too optimistic. I may like Utah's class best.
                "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                - Goatnapper'96

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #293
                  unSU-wish
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • SeattleUte
                    Faith crisis consultant
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 20837

                    #294
                    BYU's overall ranking is still only 27. Must have been factored in.

                    I'm looking forward to seeing how these best laid plans of mice and men unfold.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • Pelado
                      Bald not naked
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21084

                      #295
                      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      BYU's overall ranking is still only 27. Must have been factored in.

                      I'm looking forward to seeing how these best laid plans of mice and men unfold.
                      Or, maybe they haven't updated their team recruiting rankings yet to take the new player ratings.

                      Seems unlikely that a player rating that didn't yet exist was already factored into the team rankings.
                      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                      - Goatnapper'96

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                      • Omaha 680
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 11167

                        #296
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        BYU's overall ranking is still only 27. Must have been factored in.

                        I'm looking forward to seeing how these best laid plans of mice and men unfold.
                        Welcome to the Big 12. What is your prediction for Utah conference basketball wins being that you "may like Utah's class best"?

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                        • beefytee
                          Board eye candy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 7542

                          #297
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          BYU's overall ranking is still only 27. Must have been factored in.

                          I'm looking forward to seeing how these best laid plans of mice and men unfold.
                          Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                          Or, maybe they haven't updated their team recruiting rankings yet to take the new player ratings.

                          Seems unlikely that a player rating that didn't yet exist was already factored into the team rankings.
                          Yep. Considering they don't list a 5 star for BYU on the chart, I'm pretty sure he isn't factored in yet.

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                          • LiveCoug
                            LA Ute loves me
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 18482

                            #298
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            BYU's overall ranking is still only 27. Must have been factored in.

                            I'm looking forward to seeing how these best laid plans of mice and men unfold.
                            Updated to 13th. And Egor still not included.

                            In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.

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                            • Pelado
                              Bald not naked
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21084

                              #299
                              Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post

                              Updated to 13th. And Egor still not included.

                              https://247sports.com/season/2024-ba...eteamrankings/
                              Those are the freshman class rankings, not including the transfers. BYU's transfer class is showing as only consisting of two players, half of which are coming from Utah, so it's understandable why it's only rated #109.

                              Combining the freshman rankings (which currently still exclude Egor) and the transfer rankings gets us to the overall rankings, which is the #27 that SeattleUte was referencing.
                              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                              - Goatnapper'96

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                              • LiveCoug
                                LA Ute loves me
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 18482

                                #300
                                Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                                Those are the freshman class rankings, not including the transfers. BYU's transfer class is showing as only consisting of two players, half of which are coming from Utah, so it's understandable why it's only rated #109.

                                Combining the freshman rankings (which currently still exclude Egor) and the transfer rankings gets us to the overall rankings, which is the #27 that SeattleUte was referencing.
                                Ah. Gotcha. That's dum and SU's supposed point is dum. BYU is killing it.

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