At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[Bo Diddley]

LOL... I guess the USPS said FU to Joe:

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/usps-exempt-from-biden-vax-mandate-for-100m-workers/

Be sure to disinfect your mail.

[Moliere]

LOL... I guess the USPS said FU to Joe:

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/usps-exempt-from-biden-vax-mandate-for-100m-workers/

Be sure to disinfect your mail.

Wait what? Again, the mandate is stupid if it doesn’t cover everyone. Biden is dumb.

[Uncle Ted]

While I think vaccine mandates are very rational and would save many lives, this is probably a dumb move politically. If this pandemic has taught us anything, it is that a big swath of our society is dumb enough to risk death rather than doing something simple when asked.

This mandate is a joke... the USPS is exempt? Wat up with dat? Did the white house staff also get an exemption as well?

Biden and Harris should have just promised (in writing) they would resign if like 85% of the public got vaccinated and then watched how fast folks got their shots.

[Bo Diddley]

In just a few days, we hit the 1 in 500 morality rate in the US.

[YOhio]

I'm with SU on this. Rogan has given a platform to a bunch of shady altright asshats and grifters. He peddles quack medicine and a huge sometimes cultish fanbase that eats it up. He is not evil, but is dumb as shit and every dmt trip, less of his already limited brainpower returns.
His reaction to 1/6 was pitiful. Now he is whining because the lice medicine he took for COVID hasn't been spoken of in more sacred terms.

Ha! I think you may be overstating things a bit, but I get it. You don't like him. I saw him described on Twitter as GOOP for men and I thought that was funny.

[BlueK]

Will the executive order mandate that employees that remote work need to be vaccinated? I’m not sure “workplace safety” counts when you work from home and no one is around for you to infect.

and why only large businesses? Are people that work for small businesses immune? Is this like restaurants where as long as you are seated you can’t spread Covid? Or if you are a governor you can eat indoors without spreading Covid?

as usual, Biden is three months late on taking action. This was needed three months ago when delta began to hit.

and this measure is half assed. We need everyone vaxxed. Not just a part of the population. Most large companies already have measures in place for workplace safety that are rigorous and effective. It’s the small businesses that need the regulation in place.

Company size, etc. is probably all related to how current OSHA regs are written. Just a guess.

[Uncle Ted]

This mandate is a joke... the USPS is exempt? Wat up with dat? Did the white house staff also get an exemption as well?

Biden and Harris should have just promised (in writing) they would resign if like 85% of the public got vaccinated and then watched how fast folks got their shots.

So apparently the USPS union objected to the mandate and Joe doesn't want to lose their endorsement. I guess he will get the USPS union vote at the expense of all the other voters he pissed off.

[BlueK]

Yeah, the younger voters already had covid like three times and don't need the shot.


I guess they should let the supreme court rule on this...

Yeah, I think you're in for a surprise even with this court. Other than Thomas and maybe Alito, do you think the rest are really in a mood to tear a huge hole through OSHA? I doubt it. Legally there is no case to be made that a safety regulation around controlling a dangerous airborne disease at work must go but stuff about other controllable hazards can stay.

[BlueK]

While I think vaccine mandates are very rational and would save many lives, this is probably a dumb move politically. If this pandemic has taught us anything, it is that a big swath of our society is dumb enough to risk death rather than doing something simple when asked.

Just because they're screaming idiots doesn't not make them still the minority overall.

[BlueK]

Wait what? Again, the mandate is stupid if it doesn’t cover everyone. Biden is dumb.

Has to be done within the legal regulatory framework that already exists within the departments run by the executive branch. Otherwise it requires Congress to do it. I know, Trump didn't give a flying shit about that kind of thing because he wasn't smart enough to understand it and because he was the king of the world anyway. Doing it like this leaves the courts very little leeway to throw it out becsuse there is so much precedence for letting executive branch federal agencies do their thing.

[Uncle Ted]

Yeah, I think you're in for a surprise even with this court. Other than Thomas and maybe Alito, do you think the rest are really in a mood to tear a huge hole through OSHA? I doubt it. Legally there is no case to be made that a safety regulation around controlling a dangerous airborne disease at work must go but stuff about other controllable hazards can stay.

Yes, the government will have to answer why the USPS got a pass with controlling this dangerous airborne disease at work. And if the supreme court doesn't like their answer...

[BlueK]

Yes, the government will have to answer why the USPS got a pass with controlling this dangerous airborne disease at work. And if the supreme court doesn't like their answer...

Maybe there is no good reason. Or maybe the current regs on other stuff treat the usps differently already.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Just because they're screaming idiots doesn't not make them still the minority overall.

This will be armageddon for the dumb anti-vaxxers.

[Moliere]

Has to be done within the legal regulatory framework that already exists within the departments run by the executive branch. Otherwise it requires Congress to do it. I know, Trump didn't give a flying shit about that kind of thing because he wasn't smart enough to understand it and because he was the king of the world anyway. Doing it like this leaves the courts very little leeway to throw it out becsuse there is so much precedence for letting executive branch federal agencies do their thing.

Why is the postal service exempt?

[Moliere]

Maybe there is no good reason. Or maybe the current regs on other stuff treat the usps differently already.

This is looking more and more like the Newsome at the French Laundry as exemptions ar made known. Mandate for you but not for my friends.