At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[YOhio]

Most of these were from the B school. Harvard B school accepts nitwits from places like Islamic countries, the south, Idaho and Utah.

UNKIND!!! You sound like Trump with his shithole countries type of talk.

[SeattleUte]

UNKIND!!! You sound like Trump with his shithole countries type of talk.

I just listed places with high proportion of antivaxxers.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I just listed places with high proportion of antivaxxers.

Idaho definitely should be on that list (#2/50). But utah is right in the middle (#25/50). One more thing you can add to the "I was wrong about..." thread.

https://morningconsult.com/covid19-vaccine-dashboard/

[Moliere]

But it's not my field.

Clearly. Nothing worse than a lawyer that thinks they understand business.

[falafel]

Clearly. Nothing worse than a lawyer that thinks they understand business.

One thing is worse: an accountant who thinks he understands the law.

[Bo Diddley]

Idaho definitely should be on that list (#2/50). But utah is right in the middle (#25/50). One more thing you can add to the "I was wrong about..." thread.

https://morningconsult.com/covid19-vaccine-dashboard/

Plus Utah is a younger state, so less proportion of people are even approved to get a vaccine.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Chris Stewart is a dipshit.

[falafel]

Chris Stewart is a dipshit.

No one is going to miss him at Jazz games.

[beefytee]

I love the fact that he says he will never share private medical information.... and then goes on to share private medical information.

"But I will never allow a private company to require that I show proof of any medical procedure to visit their facility. I will never carry a vaccination passport. I will never share any of my private medical information with anyone except my health providers," he wrote.

"So, though vaccinated, I will not be going to any Utah Jazz games this year."

Why Rep. Chris Stewart won't be attending Utah Jazz games this year — or maybe ever | KSL.com

[Omaha 680]

Biden's mandate is working, both in the real world and politically. Vaccinations are spiking, infection rate is down 30 percent from the peak of the Delta wave, even though people have moved indoors, school, etc.

Whatever all his other bungling, this was a great move.

Where are you getting your data? New vaccinations reached a low in the USA in mid-July. That's about the time that we started ramping up on the delta wave. Not surprisingly, some unvaccinated were convinced by the delta wave of infection and death among the unvaccinated and new vaccinations increased along with the delta wave; the rolling average of doses per day doubled by early September (but was still down nearly 70% from peak vaccination rates in mid-April). Doses per day are actually slightly down or at best level since the mandate was announced on Sept 9.

Covid-19 Vaccinations: County and State Tracker - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

While still running through some communities, overall in the US delta peaked around September 1 so I don't think you can credit the decrease in infections to the vaccine mandate being that full immunity takes 30 days and the wave peaked a week before the mandate was announced.

[old_gregg]

I love the fact that he says he will never share private medical information.... and then goes on to share private medical information.



Why Rep. Chris Stewart won't be attending Utah Jazz games this year — or maybe ever | KSL.com

the only shame here is the reduced likelihood that chris stewart will catch and die of covid at a jazz game

[old_gregg]

Where are you getting your data? New vaccinations reached a low in the USA in mid-July. That's about the time that we started ramping up on the delta wave. Not surprisingly, some unvaccinated were convinced by the delta wave of infection and death among the unvaccinated and new vaccinations increased along with the delta wave; the rolling average of doses per day doubled by early September (but was still down nearly 70% from peak vaccination rates in mid-April). Doses per day are actually slightly down or at best level since the mandate was announced on Sept 9.

Covid-19 Vaccinations: County and State Tracker - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

While still running through some communities, overall in the US delta peaked around September 1 so I don't think you can credit the decrease in infections to the vaccine mandate being that full immunity takes 30 days and the wave peaked a week before the mandate was announced.

i would guess the vaccine has very high effectiveness long before 30 days from the first dose

[Omaha 680]

i would guess the vaccine has very high effectiveness long before 30 days from the first dose

Sure. I recall the double dose vaccine conferred 50% protection 10-ish days out from the first dose against o.g. covid. It's probably less against delta but I'm sure you get some immunity building within a week of dose 1. Regardless my point stands because delta peaked sept 1, we are only 3 weeks out from the mandate announcement and vaccinations are flat since the announcement. I want people to get vaccinated but I don't think there is any way to reasonably claim the vaccine mandate made a real dent in delta.

[Uncle Ted]

Review Analysis: Stanford students are more likely to wear masks on bicycles than helmets

In April of this year, I witnessed something on the Stanford campus that will be seared into my memory forever: a student on a bicycle, wearing flip-flops, AirPods in ear, going the wrong way through a roundabout in an active construction zone, with no helmet. But like any good follower of science, the student was wearing a disposable blue face mask -- for safety, I guess.

I think this anecdote is instructive in understanding the social dynamics that have emerged in the COVID-19 pandemic. Seemingly intelligent and well-rounded people (Stanford students, for example) have adopted bizarre, pointless habits to comport with new expectations about how to "stay safe" -- like wearing masks outdoors -- all while continuing in much more risky behaviors. This is not to say that riding a bicycle without a helmet is *especially* risky, or that I believe helmets should be mandated (they shouldn’t). But it’s absolutely a bigger risk than COVID-19 for a vaccinated twenty-something.

Unfortunately, it turned out that what I saw in the Spring would not be anecdotal at all. When I got back to our 99% vaccinated campus last week, I realized that masking outdoors and on bicycles would be a custom.

So, I decided to attempt a measurement to quantify this phenomenon. On Wednesday, September 22nd, in the 1:00 pm hour, I observed 400 Stanford cyclists on Lasuen Mall, a popular campus street for bicycles. I simply noted whether each cyclist wore a mask, a helmet, neither, or both. Here are the final tallies:

Total cyclists: 400 - (100%)

No mask, no helmet: 195 - (49%)

Mask, no helmet: 134 - (34%)

Helmet, no mask: 42 - (10%)

Mask and helmet: 29 - (7%)
[...]

https://stanfordreview.org/stanford-bicycles-helmets-masks/

LOL... Stanford students are overrated.

[SeattleUte]

Where are you getting your data? New vaccinations reached a low in the USA in mid-July. That's about the time that we started ramping up on the delta wave. Not surprisingly, some unvaccinated were convinced by the delta wave of infection and death among the unvaccinated and new vaccinations increased along with the delta wave; the rolling average of doses per day doubled by early September (but was still down nearly 70% from peak vaccination rates in mid-April). Doses per day are actually slightly down or at best level since the mandate was announced on Sept 9.

Covid-19 Vaccinations: County and State Tracker - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

While still running through some communities, overall in the US delta peaked around September 1 so I don't think you can credit the decrease in infections to the vaccine mandate being that full immunity takes 30 days and the wave peaked a week before the mandate was announced.

Yeah, well, the short story, the easiest to tell, is that Biden did the mandate, vaccines spiked, and now infections are declining rapidly. I said it was a smart political move as well as practically useful.

You know what. People who make this a civil liberties issue are morons. And this is my field.