President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[USUC]

I am confused about what Oil, Land, and other Assets the Venezuelans have stolen from us. Perhaps "dabrockster" can illuminate us on that point.

When the country nationalized everything, a lot of "stuff" owned by American companies was taken. I'm sure that is what he means but that wasn't public property.

[myboynoah]

Trump is looking for some kind of conquering success. Canada isn't happening. Neither is Greenland. Venezuela is it. Make up a bunch of nonsense about drugs, narcoterrorists, etc. to justify this silliness. Of course, he doesn't really want to do anything serious. He's just hoping Maduro will blink.

[PaloAltoCougar]

When the country nationalized everything, a lot of "stuff" owned by American companies was taken. I'm sure that is what he means but that wasn't public property.

May we assume he'll move next on Saudi Arabia? They nationalized multiple U.S oil company assets back in the '70s.

[BlueK]

Trump is looking for some kind of conquering success. Canada isn't happening. Neither is Greenland. Venezuela is it. Make up a bunch of nonsense about drugs, narcoterrorists, etc. to justify this silliness. Of course, he doesn't really want to do anything serious. He's just hoping Maduro will blink.

sort of like when Italy attacked Ethiopia or Argentina decided to move into the Falkland Islands. That's what dopey dictators do to show how macho they are.

[Moliere]

I am confused about what Oil, Land, and other Assets the Venezuelans have stolen from us. Perhaps "dabrockster" can illuminate us on that point.

I wouldn't say that they stole our oil, but I know of a number of oil companies that lost significant investments in Venezuela when the government decided to nationalize the oil industry. I think ConocoPhillips lost over $10 billion, which they continue to try to recoup through international courts.

I doubt, based on how the oil companies were treated, that any of them have any inclination to ever do any business in Venezuela ever again. Which is a shame since the oil reserves in Venezuela are ginormous.

[Moliere]

May we assume he'll move next on Saudi Arabia? They nationalized multiple U.S oil company assets back in the '70s.

Big difference between the two. The Saudis, for the most part, bought out American investors. Venezuela just took it all. Apples and oranges.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Big difference between the two. The Saudis, for the most part, bought out American investors. Venezuela just took it all. Apples and oranges.

I could imagine Trump saying they ripped us off and didn't pay fair value, but of course I wasn't serious.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Now is the time to push back against unnecessary war and war mongering not later, after it's done its damage. This is madness and worse than Iraq.

A little too early to make that call. Iraq was pretty bad.

[frank ryan]

A little too early to make that call. Iraq was pretty bad.

There is even less justification for this horseshit. Fentanyl is now a WMD by way dementia-riddled Trump's hand? Uncharted waters.

[Jeff Lebowski]

There is even less justification for this horseshit. Fentanyl is now a WMD by way dementia-riddled Trump's hand? Uncharted waters.

Yeah, the fentanyl thing is horseshit, but perhaps let's wait until there is an actual invasion before we declare this "worse than Iraq".

And don't forget: TACO

[frank ryan]

Yeah, the fentanyl thing is horseshit, but perhaps let's wait until there is an actual invasion before we declare this "worse than Iraq".

And don't forget: TACO

I'll reframe it. This justification is even flimsier. We will also go into with virtually no reliable allies and we have gutted our military leadership and intelligence agencies resources have diverted to focus on kicking brown people out of the country.

You are right the bomb haven't dropped Caracas

[chrisrenrut]

I'll reframe it. This justification is even flimsier. We will also go into with virtually no reliable allies and we have gutted our military leadership and intelligence agencies resources have diverted to focus on kicking brown people out of the country.

You are right the bomb haven't dropped Caracas

But there is currently “ the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America” that has Venezuela “completely surrounded”.

[Northwestcoug]

Yeah, the fentanyl thing is horseshit, but perhaps let's wait until there is an actual invasion before we declare this "worse than Iraq".

And don't forget: TACO

Best case scenario. There will be no coalition of the willing this time. And maybe, just maybe, there will be significant GOP opposition to any military escalation. And then, TACO.

[Bo Diddley]

I am skeptical of an invasion. I think this is all about a show of force.

[frank ryan]

I am skeptical of an invasion. I think this is all about a show of force.

It doesn't have to something carefully planned we can stumble into disaster with shitty "leadership" like Hegseth. Trump is putting himself on a god damned coin and we renamed the department of war the department of defense