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  • PaloAltoCougar
    Semper infra dignitatem
    • Nov 2008
    • 16940

    #15781
    I'll concede I may have blinders and be on the wrong side of history (I even think it's funny that this specific issue is thought to have historic implications). I've thought Elon's awkward salute wasn't Nazi-like but rather just another ill-considered, spontaneous, physical manifestation of enthusiasm in the moment, hardly unique among politicians responding to a rapturous audience. My personal favorite:

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    • Pelado
      Bald not naked
      • Sep 2010
      • 21157

      #15782
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      I'll concede I may have blinders and be on the wrong side of history (I even think it's funny that this specific issue is thought to have historic implications). I've thought Elon's awkward salute wasn't Nazi-like but rather just another ill-considered, spontaneous, physical manifestation of enthusiasm in the moment, hardly unique among politicians responding to a rapturous audience. My personal favorite:

      That is funny. And reminiscent of a particular episode of Silicon Valley.
      "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
      - Goatnapper'96

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69754

        #15783
        Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post
        You have got some serious goggles on if you think those are anywhere close to the same thing as what Elon did. And now you’re quoting an insurrection Barbie? Has Ted taken over your account?
        Haha. How on earth is it any different?

        (I have no idea who that person is - nor do I care. First one that came up in my search)
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • LVAllen
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 3285

          #15784
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Haha. How on earth is it any different?

          (I have no idea who that person is - nor do I care. First one that came up in my search)
          From wiki: "The salute is performed by extending the right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand."

          Who, aside from Musk, did it that way in those videos?

          But let's delve deeper: What, exactly, does it take for you to view a gesture as Nazi or Nazi-related? Must the words Heil Hitler be uttered? Are they a fundamental part of it, such that without them, no gesture should be considered related to Nazism?


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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69754

            #15785
            Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

            From wiki: "The salute is performed by extending the right arm from the shoulder into the air with a straightened hand."

            Who, aside from Musk, did it that way in those videos?

            But let's delve deeper: What, exactly, does it take for you to view a gesture as Nazi or Nazi-related? Must the words Heil Hitler be uttered? Are they a fundamental part of it, such that without them, no gesture should be considered related to Nazism?

            None of these are nazi salutes, including Musk.

            If you have to resort to nitpicking over the angle of the hand and how the gesture starts in determining the intent of the gesture, maybe it is time to admit this is all ridiculous.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • LVAllen
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 3285

              #15786
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

              None of these are nazi salutes, including Musk.

              If you have to resort to nitpicking over the angle of the hand and how the gesture starts in determining the intent of the gesture, maybe it is time to admit this is all ridiculous.
              You didn't answer my question.

              What IS a Nazi salute, in your view?

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69754

                #15787
                Man, I thought the left would’ve learned their lesson after that silly kerfuffle over Mrs. Alito‘s flags. Apparently not.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • frank ryan
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12389

                  #15788
                  RFK's cousin doesn't really like him.



                  Calling Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a “predator” who is addicted to power, Caroline Kennedy urged the U.S. Senate in a Tuesday letter to reject the nomination of her cousin to be President Donald Trump’s health secretary.

                  In a letter to Senators, Ms. Kennedy, who previously served as a U.S. ambassador to Australia and Japan and is the daughter of former President John F. Kennedy, etched a damning sketch of her cousin, the latest condemnation Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has received from members of his own, prominent Democratic family.

                  Several denounced her cousin’s bid for the presidency last year. The letter, obtained by The Associated Press, was first reported by The Washington Post.

                  Ms. Kennedy said in the letter that her cousin’s views on vaccines are disqualifying. She offered senators personal details from their lives growing up together that she said pose an even greater concern.

                  She described her cousin’s basement, garage and dorm as being an epicenter for drug use, where he would also put baby chickens and mice in blenders to feed to his hawks.

                  “It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence,” she wrote. She also read the letter in a video recording, sharing it on social media. Attempts to reach Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for comment were not immediately successful.


                  Kennedy now “preys on the desperation of parents of sick children,” she told senators, noting that he has vaccinated his own children while discouraging others from vaccinating theirs.

                  She also pointed out that Kennedy plans to still profit off a lawsuit against pharmaceutical company Merck over Gardasil, its human papillomavirus vaccine that prevents cervical cancer. Last year, he made over $850,000 from the arrangement.

                  “In other words, he is willing to enrich himself by denying access to a vaccine that can prevent almost all forms of cervical cancer and which has been safely administered to millions of boys and girls,” she wrote. She had previously not spoken about his candidacy or nomination for health secretary.

                  https://apnews.com/article/caroline-...31c51aaee5f171

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                  • Shaka
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 10452

                    #15789
                    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    I'll concede I may have blinders and be on the wrong side of history (I even think it's funny that this specific issue is thought to have historic implications). I've thought Elon's awkward salute wasn't Nazi-like but rather just another ill-considered, spontaneous, physical manifestation of enthusiasm in the moment, hardly unique among politicians responding to a rapturous audience. My personal favorite:

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                    • chrisrenrut
                      Strikes and Gutters
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2300

                      #15790
                      Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                      You didn't answer my question.

                      What IS a Nazi salute, in your view?
                      Let’s look at it side-by-side with an actual Nazi.


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                      • YOhio
                        Hipster Mode
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 26165

                        #15791
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Man, I thought the left would’ve learned their lesson after that silly kerfuffle over Mrs. Alito‘s flags. Apparently not.
                        BlueAnon is real. Won’t cede an inch. Nothing about Trump, Musk, Vance or whoever can possibly be good. Disagree and point out something positive and the insults start,

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                        • SteelBlue
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 8190

                          #15792
                          You know who thought it was a Nazi salute? Actual Nazis. Weird.

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12389

                            #15793
                            Originally posted by YOhio View Post

                            BlueAnon is real. Won’t cede an inch. Nothing about Trump, Musk, Vance or whoever can possibly be good. Disagree and point out something positive and the insults start,
                            Don't equate these concerns to QAnon. That's dismissive.

                            Maybe it's because they aren't good people. That's not conspiratorial.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69754

                              #15794
                              Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
                              You know who thought it was a Nazi salute? Actual Nazis. Weird.
                              Haha. Of course they did. Come on.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • Clark Addison
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10316

                                #15795
                                If Trump can extend his "Resign and get paid for eight months" to the private sector he will immediately get my support.

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