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  • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
    If Trump can extend his "Resign and get paid for eight months" to the private sector he will immediately get my support.
    That's not exactly what it is. It's actually just deferred resignation. You have one week to accept the offer, and if you do it means you work until September and get paid until then. But you're still expected to work until then. It's not the great deal first reported in the media. My sister in law who works for the DOJ read us the memo last night.

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    • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

      That's not exactly what it is. It's actually just deferred resignation. You have one week to accept the offer, and if you do it means you work until September and get paid until then. But you're still expected to work until then. It's not the great deal first reported in the media. My sister in law who works for the DOJ read us the memo last night.
      While not ideal, I'm probably ok with that as my workday would immediately go from 10-12 hours a day to 1 hour a day.

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      • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
        If Trump can extend his "Resign and get paid for eight months" to the private sector he will immediately get my support.
        Yeah, I'm still not sure exactly what this looks like, but I too would pull the plug if I could go get a job somewhere else and double dip for eight months. I'm already toying with pulling the plug in May 2026. I'd probably time it to where I'm double dipping during my terminal leave of 2-3 months.

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        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

          That's not exactly what it is. It's actually just deferred resignation. You have one week to accept the offer, and if you do it means you work until September and get paid until then. But you're still expected to work until then. It's not the great deal first reported in the media. My sister in law who works for the DOJ read us the memo last night.
          No, they are not expected to work. Just go away.



          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

            No, they are not expected to work. Just go away.


            That wasn't the understanding of my sister in law who is affected. Could be different for her role though. The whole thing is insanely stupid.

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            • Don't think my mother in law took it too well when my wife last night told her that Trump is trying to break the Constitution.

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              • I was hoping after the absolutely embarrassing performance of Karine Jean-Pierre that the next press secretary would be a welcome change. But nope. We went from someone who obfuscated, gaslit, and outright lied to someone who lies and doesn't have a basic grasp of constitutional law and separation of powers. More of the same.

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                • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                  That wasn't the understanding of my sister in law who is affected. Could be different for her role though. The whole thing is insanely stupid.
                  If you are saying that layoffs or reorgs are stupid, I'm not sure I'd agree since those happen all the time and 8 months severance is very, very generous in those cases. But if you are saying that Trump just blindly doing this to all the federal workforce, then I agree it's stupid.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                    Don't think my mother in law took it too well when my wife last night told her that Trump is trying to break the Constitution.
                    I hope that doesn't cause a riff. Trump isn't worth damaging a family relationship.

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                    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                      RFK's cousin doesn't really like him.



                      Calling Robert F. Kennedy Jr. a “predator” who is addicted to power, Caroline Kennedy urged the U.S. Senate in a Tuesday letter to reject the nomination of her cousin to be President Donald Trump’s health secretary.

                      In a letter to Senators, Ms. Kennedy, who previously served as a U.S. ambassador to Australia and Japan and is the daughter of former President John F. Kennedy, etched a damning sketch of her cousin, the latest condemnation Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has received from members of his own, prominent Democratic family.

                      Several denounced her cousin’s bid for the presidency last year. The letter, obtained by The Associated Press, was first reported by The Washington Post.

                      Ms. Kennedy said in the letter that her cousin’s views on vaccines are disqualifying. She offered senators personal details from their lives growing up together that she said pose an even greater concern.

                      She described her cousin’s basement, garage and dorm as being an epicenter for drug use, where he would also put baby chickens and mice in blenders to feed to his hawks.

                      “It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence,” she wrote. She also read the letter in a video recording, sharing it on social media. Attempts to reach Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for comment were not immediately successful.


                      Kennedy now “preys on the desperation of parents of sick children,” she told senators, noting that he has vaccinated his own children while discouraging others from vaccinating theirs.

                      She also pointed out that Kennedy plans to still profit off a lawsuit against pharmaceutical company Merck over Gardasil, its human papillomavirus vaccine that prevents cervical cancer. Last year, he made over $850,000 from the arrangement.

                      “In other words, he is willing to enrich himself by denying access to a vaccine that can prevent almost all forms of cervical cancer and which has been safely administered to millions of boys and girls,” she wrote. She had previously not spoken about his candidacy or nomination for health secretary.

                      https://apnews.com/article/caroline-...31c51aaee5f171
                      I think RFK Jr is a dangerous lunatic that should never be approved by the senate.

                      That being said, having a family member attack him like this is pretty disgusting and not something anyone should be gleeful about.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                      • OPM guidance is that, though called a deferred resignation, those who choose to accept the offer will not be expected to work.


                        https://www.opm.gov/fork/faq#:~:text...on%20period%3F

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          If you are saying that layoffs or reorgs are stupid, I'm not sure I'd agree since those happen all the time and 8 months severance is very, very generous in those cases. But if you are saying that Trump just blindly doing this to all the federal workforce, then I agree it's stupid.
                          Agreed. If the Trumpers want better government that aligns with their values, then do the hard work, pinpoint areas to cut, and then cut. This has the potential to gut workforce and severely affect how effectively federal services are provided.

                          This has the obvious Elon fingerprints all over it. He was not elected. He holds no position in government. Why are we allowing that to happen?. What will his role be in a potential government reorg? Especially given that he has billions of dollars in contracts with the government. Big conflicts of interest which expose the government to litigation. It's going to end up in the courts and taxpayers will foot the bill.
                          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                            If you are saying that layoffs or reorgs are stupid, I'm not sure I'd agree since those happen all the time and 8 months severance is very, very generous in those cases. But if you are saying that Trump just blindly doing this to all the federal workforce, then I agree it's stupid.
                            It's clearly the latter. Every employee of the federal government is being offered this except for a few areas like the military and a couple of others mentioned in the email which came to my sister in law from a non-government email hosted on an Elon Musk server. No discretion.

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                            • So wild seeing Cheryl from Curb sitting behind RFK for these hearings. I know the series is over, but we absolutely need another season. That should be Trump’s next Executive Order.

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                              • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                                Agreed. If the Trumpers want better government that aligns with their values, then do the hard work, pinpoint areas to cut, and then cut. This has the potential to gut workforce and severely affect how effectively federal services are provided.
                                That's likely a part of it. If government services are disrupted people won't like it and it feeds into Trump's narrative that it's broken and only he can fix it.

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