President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[BlueK]

It seems like it really is about experiencing the cruelty of it all. I will see occasional tweets from folks showing pictures of "illegal immigrants" gathered at bus stops and the assumption is that they are on their way out of town to avoid ICE raids. "America is back!!" Why so much joy in watching the lives of people (the vast majority of whom are just trying to make a decent living) get turned upside down?

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If this is how enough Americans really feel about it, it's pretty awful.

[BlueK]

i so look forward to tariffs anytime a country says no

Panama
denmark...lol. he really actually wants greenland

By the way, IMO, a president doesn't have the Constitutional authority to unilaterally impose a new tariff. A new tax is supposed to start in the House.

[YOhio]

You have his embarrassing appointments to lead government (if you think RFK Jr is a great choice expand your media diet) and I think there is an element of not caring or wanting agencies to fail or cease to function.

I think RFK Jr. is a great choice as HHS Director and I even pay for both the NYT and Washington Post! I think he's uniquely positioned to be a transformative leader in addressing chronic disease, childhood obesity, and the food supply chain. I'm cheering for him.

[Jeff Lebowski]

"We should let illegal aliens stay in the US as long as they are not doing anything illegal."

[Maximus]

By the way, IMO, a president doesn't have the Constitutional authority to unilaterally impose a new tariff. A new tax is supposed to start in the House.

theres some BS ww2 era IIRC law that allows the president to do it *for national security* and congress never repealed it

[Northwestcoug]

I think RFK Jr. is a great choice as HHS Director and I even pay for both the NYT and Washington Post! I think he's uniquely positioned to be a transformative leader in addressing chronic disease, childhood obesity, and the food supply chain. I'm cheering for him.

I see where you're going with this! When americans are dying early because of his strident unscientific anti-vaccine theories, there will be less chronic diseases to deal with. It's a win!

[frank ryan]

I think RFK Jr. is a great choice as HHS Director and I even pay for both the NYT and Washington Post! I think he's uniquely positioned to be a transformative leader in addressing chronic disease, childhood obesity, and the food supply chain. I'm cheering for him.

He perpetuates myths about vaccines (it's genuine misinformation), he lacks credibility with running larger organisations. He doesn't have relevant education.
He eats roadkill. I don't think finding him concerning is a difficult call.


It blows my mind you think this is a good choice. Especially calling him a great choice. Like you've said Michelle Obama tried to address childhood obesity and was relentlessly mocked about it. That was before they mocked her by accusing her of being trans.

[chrisrenrut]

"We should let illegal aliens stay in the US as long as they are not doing anything illegal."

That is The Church’s stance:

The Church supports an approach where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist...travel%20visas.

[YOhio]

I see where you're going with this! When americans are dying early because of his strident unscientific anti-vaccine theories, there will be less chronic diseases to deal with. It's a win!

This, in fact, is not where I was going.

I am curious about your perspective on his proposed removal of liability immunity for vaccine manufacturers. Is this a good thing or bad thing?

As for some of his other proposed policies, here's a good article comparing them to the policies of other countries.

[Shaka]

I think RFK Jr. is a great choice as HHS Director and I even pay for both the NYT and Washington Post! I think he's uniquely positioned to be a transformative leader in addressing chronic disease, childhood obesity, and the food supply chain. I'm cheering for him.

I really do not know that much about RFK so I'm going to do something that I'd wager no one else on this board has done. I am going to read RFK's Fouci book. Curse Joe Rogan for planting this book in my brain.

[YOhio]

He perpetuates myths about vaccines (it's genuine misinformation), he lacks credibility with running larger organisations. He doesn't have relevant education.
He eats roadkill. I don't think finding him concerning is a difficult call.


It blows my mind you think this is a good choice. Especially calling him a great choice. Like you've said Michelle Obama tried to address childhood obesity and was relentlessly mocked about it. That was before they mocked her by accusing her of being trans.

1- The largest vaccine misinformation campaign ever run in this country was under the Biden administration under the COVID-19 vaccine. It did not stop the virus as claimed and there were significant side effects, one of which I experienced. They violated the first amendment and coerced social media companies to censor information. So while I completely disagree with his more extreme views on vaccines, I'm a bit jaded by the official narrative.

2- Experience running a large organization is helpful, but I've never heard it used as a criticism of other nominees outside of Hegseth and Kennedy. But his work as an environmental lawyer demonstrated an ability to bring together multiple, disparate stakeholders to achieve consensus. That's better experience than most nominees.

3- He doesn't have relevant education. You're holding him to a standard to which you didn't hold Xavier Becerra (unless I missed your opposition during his hearings). He does have a history in his environmental law practice of achieving outcomes that benefit public health, including reducing industrial pollution, remediating brownfield sites, and protecting drinking water.

4. What's wrong with eating roadkill? Assuming it's thoroughly checked and properly prepared, I think it demonstrates an admirable respect for animal life and resourcefulness. Particularly from someone who grew up wealthy.

He's bringing visibility to public health in a way that no other nominee would. He's obviously not perfect, but disruptors rarely are.

[falafel]

I really do not know that much about RFK so I'm going to do something that I'd wager no one else on this board has done. I am going to read RFK's Fouci book. Curse Joe Rogan for planting this book in my brain.

You might also consider some sources that would be critical of RJK Jr.'s opinions and positions. At least, if you are interested in hearing both sides.

[Maximus]

1- The largest vaccine misinformation campaign ever run in this country was under the Biden administration under the COVID-19 vaccine. It did not stop the virus as claimed and there were significant side effects, one of which I experienced. They violated the first amendment and coerced social media companies to censor information. So while I completely disagree with his more extreme views on vaccines, I'm a bit jaded by the official narrative.

2- Experience running a large organization is helpful, but I've never heard it used as a criticism of other nominees outside of Hegseth and Kennedy. But his work as an environmental lawyer demonstrated an ability to bring together multiple, disparate stakeholders to achieve consensus. That's better experience than most nominees.

3- He doesn't have relevant education. You're holding him to a standard to which you didn't hold Xavier Becerra (unless I missed your opposition during his hearings). He does have a history in his environmental law practice of achieving outcomes that benefit public health, including reducing industrial pollution, remediating brownfield sites, and protecting drinking water.

4. What's wrong with eating roadkill? Assuming it's thoroughly checked and properly prepared, I think it demonstrates an admirable respect for animal life and resourcefulness. Particularly from someone who grew up wealthy.

He's bringing visibility to public health in a way that no other nominee would. He's obviously not perfect, but disruptors rarely are.

we are still doing bs claims on covid vaccine on 1?

[Jeff Lebowski]

That is The Church’s stance:



https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist...travel%20visas.

"Square themselves with the law."

Those are different statements.

[Jeff Lebowski]

For the record, I am all for making immigration to the US easier. I always have been. I am not for an almost entirely unregulated border.