President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Applejack]

I am as I used the term back in the 60's?

However here I am referring to JL outing me as a Trump supporter a couple of days ago.

A couple days ago? Stop it, everyone has known the whole time.

[byu71]

A couple days ago? Stop it, everyone has known the whole time.

Probably the best thing to do would let a joke reply like this just go. However, discipline on a chat board is not one of my strong traits, actually a weakness.

That said, my response is like I think about many of your posts, this one was made while your head was up your butt.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I'm still laughing about Trump's comments at a meeting yesterday commemorating Black History Month: "Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice."

A friend added this, but I'm unsure about whether Trump said it: "And that Harriett Tubman, she's doing a fantastic job bringing back the American railroad, the best railroad in the world, running on clean American coal. I'm hearing she is coming up with great ideas like routing it underground so it doesn't disturb the residents of the inner city (who by the way supported me bigly in my crushing electrical collage win, even if those lying fake news CNN types won't report it)."

Spicer's attempt to clarify Trump's Douglass comment was equally moronic, suggesting neither of them know anything about Frederick Douglass, including the fact that he lived and died in the 1800s.

[Moliere]

Pence's tweet was equally moronic:

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Yes, honest Abe did a lot of good for black people, however you are tone deaf if you start off celebrating black history month by celebrating a white guy.


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[BlueK]

Pence's tweet was equally moronic:

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Yes, honest Abe did a lot of good for black people, however you are tone deaf if you start off celebrating black history month by celebrating a white guy.


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It's not tone deaf. It's right out of the Steve Bannon/alt right playbook. Celebrate Black History by mentioning a white guy, Talk about the Holocaust while admittedly not mentioning Jews and doubling down on that. Bannon is in the back room laughing, knowing people from those groups are feeling insulted.

[byu71]

It's not tone deaf. It's right out of the Steve Bannon/alt right playbook. Celebrate Black History by mentioning a white guy, Talk about the Holocaust while admittedly not mentioning Jews and doubling down on that. Bannon is in the back room laughing, knowing people from those groups are feeling insulted.

To be fair, was President Obama's actions also out of an alt/left playbook? To his credit Van Jones was dismissed and I know it is a long shot, but I hope the same fate awaits Bannon.

[BlueK]

To be fair, was President Obama's actions also out of an alt/left playbook? To his credit Van Jones was dismissed and I know it is a long shot, but I hope the same fate awaits Bannon.

I'm not familiar with the specific actions you're referring to. Can you explain which of Obama's actions you're talking about?

[byu71]

I am not going to list a bunch. I think a lot of his comments regarding police to be offensive. I think during his campaign he said something about clinging to their guns and bibles was offensive.

[BlueK]

I am not going to list a bunch. I think a lot of his comments regarding police to be offensive. I think during his campaign he said something about clinging to their guns and bibles was offensive.

I'm equally annoyed by the crazy left. Sarah Silverstein is actually out there asking for armed revolution right now. That's just as terrible.

I'm not traditional right or left. I'm a libertarian. The reason Trump is so hard for me to take is because he's about as diametrically opposed to libertarianism as is possible --- like the far left is to you.

[byu71]

I'm equally annoyed by the crazy left. Sarah Silverstein is actually out there asking for armed revolution right now. That's just as terrible.

I'm not traditional right or left. I'm a libertarian. The reason Trump is so hard for me to take is because he's about as diametrically opposed to libertarianism as is possible --- like the far left is to you.

Very fair. What troubles me the most is not most of his policies, but he appears to be a power hungry, egomaniac with no sensitivity to those who he disagrees with. It doesn't matter how good his policies are, in my mind he is a shitty salesman. I still wonder how he was so successful in business.

This is just my opinion. The best thing that can happen is reasonable republicans and excellent cabinet members can thwart him. As long as the dems keep tearing down good republicans, they (reasonable republicans) can't battle Trump successfully.

[BlueK]

Now I'm concered that war with Iran is probably right around the corner. Trump was supposed to be less hawkish/neocon, but I don't even think someone as hawkish as John McCain would have tried to provoke conflict with Iran.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/middle...ing/index.html

[Walter Sobchak]

Now I'm concered that war with Iran is probably right around the corner. Trump was supposed to be less hawkish/neocon, but I don't even think someone as hawkish as John McCain would have tried to provoke conflict with Iran.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/middle...ing/index.html

Ultimately, this is the biggest concern anyone should have with the current administration. Everything else is noise.

This action seems counter to President Trump's "America First" message (not that it would be the first time our President has done something inconsistent). During his campaign, President Trump consistently hammered against the orthodox GOP foreign policy, going so far (at least once iirc) of implying that President Bush lied us into the Iraq war. President Obama rode a wave of anti-interventionalist fervor into the White House and then caved to the pressure and power of top officials (on both sides of the aisle) and capitulated on issues such as Guantanamo, Syria, Libya, the Patriot Act, drone strikes, and on and on. What a disappointment.

Hopefully, President Trump can stick to his principles original instincts and sweep the last vestiges of the post-9/11 war hysteria away... ending years and years of constant warfare abroad which has been perpetually "seeking monsters to destroy". If President Trump can do that, I'll vote for his re-election... because it will be nothing short of a miraculous achievement. I give him a 0.05% chance of doing this however, perhaps even less given his (and Flynn's) recent pronouncement about Iran.

[byu71]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ugee-deal.html

Knowing Trumps policy on refugees and his ego and temper, do you think Pres. Obama left this little deal with Australia and keeping it secret in order to get some smiles right now? I think he is smiling at this (Trumps meltdown), I would be if I were him.

I don't quite understand why he wouldn't have informed the appropriate people in Congress.

[BlueK]

Quite touching this morning how at the National Prayer Breakfast, at this longtime tradition for Presidents to attend and speak, Donald Trump today couldn't help but talk about Celebrity Apprentice and how we should pray for Arnold because the ratings are down.

What a freaking joke.

[BlueK]

Ultimately, this is the biggest concern anyone should have with the current administration. Everything else is noise.

This action seems counter to President Trump's "America First" message (not that it would be the first time our President has done something inconsistent). During his campaign, President Trump consistently hammered against the orthodox GOP foreign policy, going so far (at least once iirc) of implying that President Bush lied us into the Iraq war. President Obama rode a wave of anti-interventionalist fervor into the White House and then caved to the pressure and power of top officials (on both sides of the aisle) and capitulated on issues such as Guantanamo, Syria, Libya, the Patriot Act, drone strikes, and on and on. What a disappointment.

Hopefully, President Trump can stick to his principles original instincts and sweep the last vestiges of the post-9/11 war hysteria away... ending years and years of constant warfare abroad which has been perpetually "seeking monsters to destroy". If President Trump can do that, I'll vote for his re-election... because it will be nothing short of a miraculous achievement. I give him a 0.05% chance of doing this however, perhaps even less given his (and Flynn's) recent pronouncement about Iran.

Well said.

Next up, China.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/opinio...ris/index.html