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  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

    Tweak? He already defended them deporting legal immigrants to prisons

    He said he wants evryone but dreamers gone. Kids arent dreamers
    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

    What does "tweak their methods" mean? That sounds like a non-criticism of some pretty egregious behaviors.
    I rest my case.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

      Stick around!

      One of the problems with the political category is some folks really struggle with nuance. Everything is black and white. Also, when some posters encounter an opinion that disturbs them, they seem personally offended and go after the poster in question rather than just counter the arguments. You just have to learn to ignore that stuff.
      This is 99% of online political discourse. This place isn't unique in that way (although we are generally much more mild in our disagreements here).

      Nuance and composure in political discussions are exceedingly rare. Human nature I suppose. Certain personalities can navigate it much better than others. I love political discussions and don't get emotional often. But I'm not great at political debates and they'll stress me out. So I don't really engage in them. Open discussion of ideas and philosophy is more my speed.

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      • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
        I consider myself a moderate conservative. I try not to venture too much into politics these days though (I’m happier that way).

        Do you not think people are respectful?
        You just answered your own question. I feel there are some on here that are not respectful.

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Stick around!

          One of the problems with the political category is some folks really struggle with nuance. Everything is black and white. Also, when some posters encounter an opinion that disturbs them, they seem personally offended and go after the poster in question rather than just counter the arguments. You just have to learn to ignore that stuff.
          I ignore for the most part. That doesn't mean there isn't hostility. I can handle hostility but it tends to bring comments like Falawful's.

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          • Originally posted by Moliere View Post



            I rest my case.

            it seems you missed shaka saying he is ok with these things in this very thread

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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post


              Shame on shaka for posting a non-criticism!
              Woe is me!

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              • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                And for those who want to kick any and all lgbt students out of byu
                Are there any of those on this board?

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                • Originally posted by Moliere View Post



                  I rest my case.
                  You didn't make one. You're trying to emphasize Shaka isn't a MAGA guy and is critical of some parts of the ICE abuses.
                  Im not sure what he means by tweaking it because he hasn't exactly been critical.

                  JL, I'm expressing disagreement with Shaka. I don't hate him or think he is a bad person. In fact, I think he's a good dude.

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                  • Originally posted by USUC View Post

                    This is 99% of online political discourse. This place isn't unique in that way (although we are generally much more mild in our disagreements here).

                    Nuance and composure in political discussions are exceedingly rare. Human nature I suppose. Certain personalities can navigate it much better than others. I love political discussions and don't get emotional often. But I'm not great at political debates and they'll stress me out. So I don't really engage in them. Open discussion of ideas and philosophy is more my speed.
                    I don't think personal attacks fly around very much here.

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                    • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                      Are there any of those on this board?
                      Most of us are happily married but you never know.
                      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                      • Originally posted by All-American View Post

                        Most of us are happily married but you never know.
                        Those who want to kick LGBTQXYZ out of BYU.

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                        • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                          I mean it is stephen miller.

                          I
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                            Are there any of those on this board?
                            Why would that matter? The experience of people outside of one's own perspective and experience isn't the issue.
                            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                            • Last year they were lying about immigrants eating animals.

                              This year they are excited that animals might be eating immigrants

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                              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                                Those who want to kick LGBTQXYZ out of BYU.
                                A recent religious discussion had many on here support rules to kick outr anyone who think lgbt people should be able to legally get married

                                Professor was forced to resign for supporting gay marriage on facebook


                                byui professor got in trouble because rhsir relative is gay and got married


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