Missing POW from Hailey Idaho

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  • SoonerCoug
    Joycelyn Elders Supporter
    • Nov 2008
    • 4680

    #151
    Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    It sounds like the Taliban may be helping President Obama with promise to shutdown Gitmo:




    If a crazy soldier that went AWOL is worth five high ranking Taliban then imagine what a non-crazy one would be worth.
    Can there really be any doubt that the released Taliban are not being used for American purposes? I'm sure their every move is being tracked. I can't see how they would pose a threat under these circumstances. The CIA could snatch them back up momentarily. They are in Qatar. They aren't going anywhere.
    That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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    • HuskyFreeNorthwest
      Time to camp
      • Nov 2008
      • 26082

      #152
      Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
      Can there really be any doubt that the released Taliban are not being used for American purposes? I'm sure their every move is being tracked. I can't see how they would pose a threat under these circumstances. The CIA could snatch them back up momentarily. They are in Qatar. They aren't going anywhere.
      Do you think they play guitar in Qatar?
      Get confident, stupid
      -landpoke

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      • happyone
        Board Bookworm
        • Mar 2009
        • 5397

        #153
        Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
        I read somewhere that an American soldier stationed in South Korea during the 1960s deserted to North Korea because he feared he'd be sent to Vietnam. He lived there for 40 years and married a Japanese woman who was being held there too. I think he taught English to NK military types. Eventually he decided to go home. He was court-martialed, given 30 days' confinement, and dishonorably discharged. Then he went on his way and I think lives in the USA somewhere. Something like that -- the court martial, at least -- should happen in this case too. But it's too politicized now.

        EDIT: His name was Charles Robert Jenkins. Here's his story:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robert_Jenkins
        I was thinking of this case when I made my coment

        I may be small, but I'm slow.

        A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."

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        • scottie
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 5247

          #154
          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          Do you think they play guitar in Qatar?

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          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
            Time to camp
            • Nov 2008
            • 26082

            #155
            You think they are eating butter in Qatar?
            Get confident, stupid
            -landpoke

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12331

              #156
              his doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27860

                #157
                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                his doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670
                The official, who spoke about the sensitive details of Bergdahl’s case on the condition of anonymity, said that Bergdahl is not being interrogated at the American military medical facility in Germany, to which he was brought this weekend after being released from five-year captivity by the Taliban. The official said there are legitimate concerns about Bergdahl’s physical and mental health, which have deteriorated over the years – so serious that doctors have cautioned officials and family not to reach out to even just say “welcome back” yet.
                Well duh, anyone that spends 5 years as a POW is going to have some mental health issues. I'm more interested in his mental health state when he deserted.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • frank ryan
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12331

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  Well duh, anyone that spends 5 years as a POW is going to have some mental health issues. I'm more interested in his mental health state when he deserted.
                  Well, duh yourself. All doctors can do is tell you what his behavior was symptomatic of. It sure sounds like serious trauma and a crisis building up.
                  Last edited by frank ryan; 06-07-2014, 11:41 AM.

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                  • Nakoma
                    Junior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 571

                    #159
                    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                    his doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670
                    I wonder if HIPAA prohibits military doctors from discussing a patient's physical and mental health status in violation of his/her privacy rights. Maybe there is an exception to HIPAA if it helps the White House deflect public criticism over a prisoner exchange.

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #160
                      Originally posted by happyone View Post
                      I was thinking of this case when I made my coment
                      Bergdahl deserves justice. After he's back in the USA there should be an Article 32 hearing (the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, to detemine whether there is enough evidence to charge him). Then, if warranted, the man should be given a court martial. If he really was mentally ill the supporting facts will come out in the trial. If he was a deserter, or simply AWOL, that will all come out. Or maybe there's another story that is true. I think it would be fair to him to clear his name, if he deserves that, rather than leave a cloud over his head for the rest of his life. If he violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he should be punished. Maybe he'll get 30 days of confinement like the Korean War deserter. I just wonder if the system will be allowed to work.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12331

                        #161
                        Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                        I wonder if HIPAA prohibits military doctors from discussing a patient's physical and mental health status in violation of his/her privacy rights. Maybe there is an exception to HIPAA if it helps the White House deflect public criticism over a prisoner exchange.
                        Yes, one big grand conspiracy.

                        Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                        Bergdahl deserves justice. After he's back in the USA there should be an Article 32 hearing (the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, to detemine whether there is enough evidence to charge him). Then, if warranted, the man should be given a court martial. If he really was mentally ill the supporting facts will come out in the trial. If he was a deserter, or simply AWOL, that will all come out. Or maybe there's another story that is true. I think it would be fair to him to clear his name, if he deserves that, rather than leave a cloud over his head for the rest of his life. If he violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he should be punished. Maybe he'll get 30 days of confinement like the Korean War deserter. I just wonder if the system will be allowed to work.
                        Good post. Going awol and being in a mental health crisis aren't exactly mutually exclusive.

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                        • grapevine
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1990

                          #162
                          Well he is charged with desertion now. Could spend the rest of his life in prison.

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #163
                            Originally posted by grapevine View Post
                            Well he is charged with desertion now. Could spend the rest of his life in prison.
                            You are watching too much Fox news... Susan Rice said Bergdahl served with the country with "honor and distinction". Therefore, he must be a hero and worth the five Taliban commanders we traded for him.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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                            • grapevine
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1990

                              #164
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              You are watching too much Fox news... Susan Rice said Bergdahl served with the country with "honor and distinction". Therefore, he must be a hero and worth the five Taliban commanders we traded for him.
                              Interesting on the KMVT Facebook page the Twin Falls television station there are commentators there calling for Begdahls head. Interesting comments.

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                              • TripletDaddy
                                sweet triple
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 58186

                                #165
                                Originally posted by grapevine View Post
                                Interesting on the KMVT Facebook page the Twin Falls television station there are commentators there calling for Begdahls head. Interesting comments.
                                That would be ironic....he gets released by the Taliban, comes home to Idaho and gets beheaded.
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