Originally posted by Uncle Ted
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Missing POW from Hailey Idaho
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Can there really be any doubt that the released Taliban are not being used for American purposes? I'm sure their every move is being tracked. I can't see how they would pose a threat under these circumstances. The CIA could snatch them back up momentarily. They are in Qatar. They aren't going anywhere.That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens
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Do you think they play guitar in Qatar?Originally posted by SoonerCoug View PostCan there really be any doubt that the released Taliban are not being used for American purposes? I'm sure their every move is being tracked. I can't see how they would pose a threat under these circumstances. The CIA could snatch them back up momentarily. They are in Qatar. They aren't going anywhere.Get confident, stupid
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I was thinking of this case when I made my comentOriginally posted by LA Ute View PostI read somewhere that an American soldier stationed in South Korea during the 1960s deserted to North Korea because he feared he'd be sent to Vietnam. He lived there for 40 years and married a Japanese woman who was being held there too. I think he taught English to NK military types. Eventually he decided to go home. He was court-martialed, given 30 days' confinement, and dishonorably discharged. Then he went on his way and I think lives in the USA somewhere. Something like that -- the court martial, at least -- should happen in this case too. But it's too politicized now.
EDIT: His name was Charles Robert Jenkins. Here's his story:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robert_Jenkins
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You think they are eating butter in Qatar?Originally posted by scottie View PostGet confident, stupid
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his doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670
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Originally posted by frank ryan View Posthis doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670Well duh, anyone that spends 5 years as a POW is going to have some mental health issues. I'm more interested in his mental health state when he deserted.The official, who spoke about the sensitive details of Bergdahl’s case on the condition of anonymity, said that Bergdahl is not being interrogated at the American military medical facility in Germany, to which he was brought this weekend after being released from five-year captivity by the Taliban. The official said there are legitimate concerns about Bergdahl’s physical and mental health, which have deteriorated over the years – so serious that doctors have cautioned officials and family not to reach out to even just say “welcome back” yet."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Well, duh yourself. All doctors can do is tell you what his behavior was symptomatic of. It sure sounds like serious trauma and a crisis building up.Originally posted by Moliere View PostWell duh, anyone that spends 5 years as a POW is going to have some mental health issues. I'm more interested in his mental health state when he deserted.Last edited by frank ryan; 06-07-2014, 11:41 AM.
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I wonder if HIPAA prohibits military doctors from discussing a patient's physical and mental health status in violation of his/her privacy rights. Maybe there is an exception to HIPAA if it helps the White House deflect public criticism over a prisoner exchange.Originally posted by frank ryan View Posthis doctors are concerned about his mental health? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bowe-b...ry?id=23975670
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Bergdahl deserves justice. After he's back in the USA there should be an Article 32 hearing (the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, to detemine whether there is enough evidence to charge him). Then, if warranted, the man should be given a court martial. If he really was mentally ill the supporting facts will come out in the trial. If he was a deserter, or simply AWOL, that will all come out. Or maybe there's another story that is true. I think it would be fair to him to clear his name, if he deserves that, rather than leave a cloud over his head for the rest of his life. If he violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he should be punished. Maybe he'll get 30 days of confinement like the Korean War deserter. I just wonder if the system will be allowed to work.Originally posted by happyone View PostI was thinking of this case when I made my coment“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
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Yes, one big grand conspiracy.Originally posted by Nakoma View PostI wonder if HIPAA prohibits military doctors from discussing a patient's physical and mental health status in violation of his/her privacy rights. Maybe there is an exception to HIPAA if it helps the White House deflect public criticism over a prisoner exchange.
Good post. Going awol and being in a mental health crisis aren't exactly mutually exclusive.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostBergdahl deserves justice. After he's back in the USA there should be an Article 32 hearing (the military equivalent of a preliminary hearing, to detemine whether there is enough evidence to charge him). Then, if warranted, the man should be given a court martial. If he really was mentally ill the supporting facts will come out in the trial. If he was a deserter, or simply AWOL, that will all come out. Or maybe there's another story that is true. I think it would be fair to him to clear his name, if he deserves that, rather than leave a cloud over his head for the rest of his life. If he violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he should be punished. Maybe he'll get 30 days of confinement like the Korean War deserter. I just wonder if the system will be allowed to work.
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You are watching too much Fox news... Susan Rice said Bergdahl served with the country with "honor and distinction". Therefore, he must be a hero and worth the five Taliban commanders we traded for him.Originally posted by grapevine View PostWell he is charged with desertion now. Could spend the rest of his life in prison."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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Interesting on the KMVT Facebook page the Twin Falls television station there are commentators there calling for Begdahls head. Interesting comments.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostYou are watching too much Fox news... Susan Rice said Bergdahl served with the country with "honor and distinction". Therefore, he must be a hero and worth the five Taliban commanders we traded for him.
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That would be ironic....he gets released by the Taliban, comes home to Idaho and gets beheaded.Originally posted by grapevine View PostInteresting on the KMVT Facebook page the Twin Falls television station there are commentators there calling for Begdahls head. Interesting comments.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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