Missing POW from Hailey Idaho

[wuapinmon]

Just listened to this podcast. I just bought the book on Audible. American Cipher.

As the J2 intelligence officer, Mike Flynn was spreading false information that Bowe was a jihadist. Now he goes around the country spreading false information about QAnon. How did we end up with someone like him in leadership of the military? I wonder how many lives were lost because of the false narratives he pushed.

Patraeus, McChrystal, and Flynn were the only people who refused interviews for the book. Dozens of sources say they were getting missions approved under the guise of search and rescue missions to go get Bergdahl, while they knew he was really over the border in Pakistan. They made hundreds of soldiers sign NDA's after missions to keep the truth under wraps, but they probably didn't really know the truth anyway. They were told they were going to find Bergdahl when the mission objective was to root out the Taliban all over the place.

A leader has a responsibility to make sure that the missions/decisions they approve are what they say they are. Do divisions or regiments have a sort of ombudsman on the general staff whose job is to make sure that people are doing what they say they do or are actually doing what they proposed?

[Bo Diddley]

A leader has a responsibility to make sure that the missions/decisions they approve are what they say they are. Do divisions or regiments have a sort of ombudsman on the general staff whose job is to make sure that people are doing what they say they do or are actually doing what they proposed?

I haven't worked that high up the food chain. The only oversight I'm aware of is the next higher command. Every commander has another commander.

[wuapinmon]

I haven't worked that high up the food chain. The only oversight I'm aware of is the next higher command. Every commander has another commander.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[Bo Diddley]

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

At some point ethics have to mean something.

[wuapinmon]

At some point ethics have to mean something.

I agree. But, there's also the "trust, but verify" corporate mantra that I wondered if it had spilled over into the military.

[Bo Diddley]

I agree. But, there's also the "trust, but verify" corporate mantra that I wondered if it had spilled over into the military.

I think at some point their bosses trusted them too much. They earn a lot of trust throughout their career when they are placed in those positions. You could call it a lifetime of vetting. It takes a lot to remove them once they get that high.

[BigPiney]

Just listened to this podcast. I just bought the book on Audible. American Cipher.

As the J2 intelligence officer, Mike Flynn was spreading false information that Bowe was a jihadist. Now he goes around the country spreading false information about QAnon. How did we end up with someone like him in leadership of the military? I wonder how many lives were lost because of the false narratives he pushed.

Patraeus, McChrystal, and Flynn were the only people who refused interviews for the book. Dozens of sources say they were getting missions approved under the guise of search and rescue missions to go get Bergdahl, while they knew he was really over the border in Pakistan. They made hundreds of soldiers sign NDA's after missions to keep the truth under wraps, but they probably didn't really know the truth anyway. They were told they were going to find Bergdahl when the mission objective was to root out the Taliban all over the place.

Let me know how it is. I just put it on my list.

[Bo Diddley]

Let me know how it is. I just put it on my list.

Will do.

[wuapinmon]

I just realized that I'm older than Alexander Vindman. He's a retired Lt. Col. I'm getting old.

[Bo Diddley]

I just realized that I'm older than Alexander Vindman. He's a retired Lt. Col. I'm getting old.

You old coot!

[Bo Diddley]

I'm definitely one to reserve judgement until I get the facts. If it turns out he deserted, I won't be one calling for a pound of flesh, as 5 years in captivity like that is a pretty harsh sentence. He's got some heavy baggage to carry around with him for the rest of his life.

Plus, just going to war is hard on people. From the accounts I'm hearing, he was a troubled soldier from the beginning. Again, I'll reserve judgement on his leadership, but I have questions as to whether they took appropriate actions with regards to this soldier before he went missing.

Swish.

I'm listening to American Cipher. Turns out Bergdahl's leadership discussed him as a potential mental health problem before he ever made it to Afghanistan.

[Bo Diddley]

Let me know how it is. I just put it on my list.

Just finished reading listening to American Cipher. It is very thorough.

I found myself nodding along to a lot of the details that seem off the wall, but are true to life. It was interesting hearing details about events, people, places and processes that have spanned a large chunk of my career. It was a mix of "oh yeah, I remember that" and added details that I didn't know or realize. And that's where SFC Thode was killed. I was moved to tears a couple of times.

Rogue Intel networks. Competing Intel networks fighting with each other.

I don't know what was worse--the dizzying bureaucracy that couldn't get anything done, or media that parroted lies and misinformation for money.

[BigPiney]

Just finished reading listening to American Cipher. It is very thorough.

I found myself nodding along to a lot of the details that seem off the wall, but are true to life. It was interesting hearing details about events, people, places and processes that have spanned a large chunk of my career. It was a mix of "oh yeah, I remember that" and added details that I didn't know or realize. And that's where SFC Thode was killed. I was moved to tears a couple of times.

Rogue Intel networks. Competing Intel networks fighting with each other.

I don't know what was worse--the dizzying bureaucracy that couldn't get anything done, or media that parroted lies and misinformation for money.

Thanks for the follow up. I have it in my Kindle. I'll have to get to it in the next few weeks.